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What the left doesn't want you to know

posted 5 years ago by jimmyjuliano (223)
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Sources tell The Washington Post that he had a broken hyoid bone - a break seen in those who hang themselves but more common in strangulation victims

The blood vessels in the billionaire pedophile's eyes had also popped when his air supply was cut off, Again more common in strangulation victims

The autopsy was completed Sunday, but the New York City's chief medical examiner listed the 66-year-old's cause of death as pending and not a suicide

A source says Epstein was in 'great spirits' before his death in jail Saturday
He met daily with lawyers at Metropolitan Correctional Center and believed his legal team would win an appeal to get him bail

Epstein told his lawyer Friday, 'I'll see you Sunday', but was found dead Saturday

He was taken off suicide watch and given his own cell after allegedly telling his lawyers that his cellmate Nicholas Tartaglione inflicted the neck injuries on him

The camaras used in these places run off batteries and off solar power, But for the first recorded time failed the day that Epstein died

Entries were forged on the log used to check on Epstein



She released a manuscript just hours before Epstein's prison suicide, which added to more than 2,000 documents of a lawsuit pending against the former financier and his high-profile pals.

In her statement she claimed the former US President Bill Clinton joined her, Ghislaine Maxwell - Epstein’s ex-lover - Epstein and two other women from New York for dinner.

She claims he was teasing two 12 year old girls with “playful pokes” and “brassy comments” before leaving with them at the end of the night.

Virginia writes: “Strolling into the darkness with two beautiful girls around either arm, Bill seemed content to retire for the evening.”

Earlier, we reported how investigators scoured the billionaire's private US Virgin Island - dubbed "orgy island" - following allegations under-age girls were used as sex slaves and abused inside a bizarre temple.





oh no! safe to say that the clinton body count just went up by one

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[–] christomacin (4578) 5 years ago

This had been reported already years ago in court documents presented by Virginia Giuffre Roberts' lawyer Bradley Edwards. "Virginia writes"...it's right there in your post. Killing Epstein wouldn't have prevented this detail from coming out...since it already came out. And since the possible killing Epstein has now allowed for the searching of his island and freed up many witness to talk now that he's dead, that would be rather foolish of Bill to do that. This result is actually worse in many ways than allowing Epstein to take the stand. A lot of people bandy back and forth about the plane and "26/27 (or whatever) times", but very few people even know the earlier court claim of Roberts - I'll give you that. But this HAS already been reported and killing Epstein now wouldn't put that particular genie back in the bottle. Having said that, I have no idea how deep Clinton is in, but it's not looking very good for him.

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[–] jimmyjuliano (223) 5 years ago

we don't know what epstein could have said, and i'm not just talking about the clintons, this could be anything and everything. we don't know how this would have played out, taking it to trial, names coming out.....we're 14 months off an election. to have another 14 months of this, of names coming out well maybe it would affect certain people, certain naratives....

it goes deeper than the clintons, who would have knew matt groenings name would have come out? i think that no epstein means no trial, no trial and certain things get put to bed, yeah they have got the 2000 page court documentary, but with something like this, theres always a dominio affect, like the me-to movement, weinstein.... anything like that, it starts snowballing. but no trial, and this just all may be put to bed by the end of the month. get what i'm saying?

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[–] christomacin (4578) 5 years ago

I agree, there were probably a lot of things in Epstein head - and ONLY in Epstein's head - that we may never know, unless he told Ghislaine Maxwell. By all accounts, Epstein was a very bright man with a very mathematical brain, and I'd imagine he had a mind like a steel trap. If some of us on here are wrong and Barr's DOJ are really the good guys, then this his death wouldn't necessarily present an insurmountable obstacle as long as they can lasso Maxwell before she gets wasted. Hell, she may even be more crucial than Epstein for all we know. His death makes things more difficult to be sure. My contention is that those "things inside his head" might have been the truly important ones - beyond the many folks that could go down for the hard evidence he may have had - such as which entities he was collecting this information for and why. Unfortunately, it just so happens that Barr seems to be an excellent candidate for such a gate-keeping role in preventing the answers to these very questions. It's bigger than Clinton (and probably Trump). I'd agree with you on that, too.

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[–] jimmyjuliano (223) 5 years ago

trumps name isn't coming out, and i know you'd love it to come out, but there aren't pilots talking about seeing him on the plane.

i'll put it like this, the clintons are the democrat party, if they are running in this election or not, so lets see, we're 14 months off an election, to get rid of maybe the most hated president (for the democrats) in american history, the clintons like i say are the democrat party, bill was president, and hillary has been a major player and the nomination for the last 12 years ok? so lets say this went to trial and we had 14 months of "clinton was seen here, this girl says this, this girls says that, we have a pilot that says.. clinton clinton, clinton clinton clinton, clinton clinton clinton clinton"

it affects the democrat brand, forget the clintons, it affects the democrat brand as we near an election year, so thats my point!

and linking trump into this, because he was in a picture with him 25 years ago?! is like linking my grandmother with the kennedy assination, because she had her picture took with bobby kennedy in a beach in hyannis during the 50s. it's politics, and not truth. and believe me if it does come out that trump is linked? hang him. straight up, i'd be the first to call for his impeachment, jail too, but you know what? naaaa i don't see it, and deep down you don't either

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[–] christomacin (4578) 5 years ago

and linking trump into this, because he was in a picture with him 25 years ago?! is like linking my grandmother with the kennedy assination, because she had her picture took with bobby kennedy in a beach in hyannis during the 50s.

At least three pictures I've found and a video showing them partying and sizing up chicks. And more: Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach was within a short walking distance of Epstein's house for many years, Ghislaine Maxwell's monkey business at Mar-A-Lago, and an admittedly unproven claim that Trump and Epstein raped a 15-year old girl there. Beyond that, extensive strange tie-ins between people in Trump's administration and Epstein going back quite a few years, including those who were employed at Kirkland and Ellis which defended Epstein. The hiring of Acosta for Sec of Labor, and his role in the plea deal, which Trump should have been aware of given he lived in South Florida and had a beef with Epstein which involved a young girl. Even this claim (made by the property manager not Trump personally) that Trump threw Epstein out of Mar-A-Lago is disputed, as it is claimed by some they had a business falling out. Interesting that Trump didn't swear this himself under oath, and only cooperated with Edwards after the plea deal had gone through and none of the discoveries would ever come out and no one could be charged - or so everyone thought until the Miami Herald article came out last year.

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[–] jimmyjuliano (223) 5 years ago

i could do that with anyone and with anything, i saw AOC in new york, near this correctional facility 2 minutes before epstein died, and my friend works at a apple store that fixed her laptop and there was "how to make a murder look like a suicide" on her search history...

you see? the democrat strategy with trump has been "throw enough shit and something will stick" you can see videos from protect veritas, of people, important people at CNN saying "we know the whole russian thing is BS, but anything we can do to undermine him...."

and thats all it is, thats the new democratic strategy, "yeah yeah i know it doesn't look good for clinton, but trump, but trump, but trump, but trump...."

we have to decide if we want truth or political bias.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

How is this what the left doesn't want us to know if you're citing the Washington Post which is constantly being referred to as a liberal newspaper?

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[–] jimmyjuliano (223) 5 years ago

sam you'e trying to win petty arguments to deflect from the big picture. and it's telling, very telling, i'd never be that stupid enough to say "EVERYBODY on the left is trying to hide this" that would be ignorant. i believe that in general the left wants this to go away, it's another pizzagate for them, it's a loony conspiracy, when we know it isn't, so yeah, most liberals do, but is every single liberal newspaper journalist like that? no, of course not.

but well done, if you've ignored the most important part of it all to try and win some petty little argument. well done. but like i say, i'm very worried about the lefts link with pedophilia, maybe they aren't ALL actual pedophiles, but this delection that leads to innocent children being abused is all part of the same hypocracy.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Your thread title is: "What the left doesn't want you to know" but your citing a newspaper that the right routinely refers to as liberal. How is that petty if it basically makes the title of your thread void since it's the left in this case that's reporting on it? Stop being dishonest in your posts if you don't want to be called out on it.

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[–] jimmyjuliano (223) 5 years ago

come back with something inteligent instead of childish "loopholes" to discredit something. it's boring

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

lmao your proof of something "the left doesn't want you to know" is to use a liberal newspaper as a source and you're criticizing me for not saying anything intelligent? Oooookay then!

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[–] jimmyjuliano (223) 5 years ago

so you're saying that every liberal reporter is a biased nutjob like you? and i can't cite someone from a liberal paper?

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

No, I'm saying it's disingenuous to cite a liberal newspaper and say it's something liberals don't want you to know. It defies all logic. The other place I've seen this story is the Hill article posted by Doggie which is very (and openly) liberal. Do you know for a fact this hasn't been reported on CNN? MSNBC? Have you been watching both of them continuously to say for certain? I'd be willing to bet it has and will be talked about on the nightly round of shows.

But yeah I'm the biased nutjob lol. I'm not sure you realize how nonsensical you come off with posts like this. I want to see this investigated just as much as you, I just don't think your posts make much sense.

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[–] jimmyjuliano (223) 5 years ago

i've said that in GENERAL, libs want this story to go away, they aren't reporting on it, your friend steve is getting all agressive, calling people "loony" anderson cooper too. but am i so radical like you that i believe that every single liberal journalist is pushing an agenda? no, i'm not that radical like you. i'm not as brainwashed as you, to hate people, not to see there are different degrees of these things.

i believe that generally the left wants this to go away, i'm just not brainwashed enough to believe that the whole of the left is supporting pedophiles. try and understand that, try and be less extreme. or you're one step away from shooting up a school....

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

i believe that generally the left wants this to go away


Too bad you've shown NOTHING to support this. You talk big but can't produce anything to back up your words and instead provide links that directly contradict yourself.

As for the last line in your comment...too despicable to justify responding to. I'm out.

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[–] jimmyjuliano (223) 5 years ago

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[–] TexasJack (12515) 5 years ago

Time to bring in Quincy, M.E.

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[–] jimmyjuliano (223) 5 years ago

it's a shame sarcasm doesn't get people off child rape charges, you'd make a good lawyer.....

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

We need to ask T-rump or Acosta what can a man off child rape charges. They will know...

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[–] jimmyjuliano (223) 5 years ago

you see trump when you close your eyes don't you?! you need to write "t-rump" like that because you've broke your keyboard typing his name so much?

you're obssesed, and i like it

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

https://life.shared.com/donald-trump-raped-me-at-epsteins-parties-s-13-year-old

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Well Epstein was given a sweetheart of a deal by Alex Acosta, the then U.S. District Attorney for the Southern District of Florida back in 2006....and a decade later Acosta would be appointed as U.S. Secretary of Labor by President Donald Trump but nothing suspicious about that at all....

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Nope, not a damn thing suspicious about that at all. Completely innocent, and Acosta was appointed USOL on his merits, of course - I wouldn't think otherwise.

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