Are these two the same sport:
Men's NCAA basketball
Women's NCAA basketball
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Neither are sports. They're a game of hot potato where they award points.
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Last time I ask a sports question on here!
shareYes, same sport with two different biological types.
shareI read where women play with smaller balls.
shareBall size doesn't change the sport.
shareDoesn't it mean your shooting accuracy doesn't have to be that great?
shareNo, because women's hands are smaller.
shareBut, the ball being smaller has an easier chance to go through the hoop! (Also, most of these women bb players are bigger than your average woman, so they should have no problem with the men's balls.)
shareTo be fair, they should make the women's hoop smaller too. But that would require they play on different courts. Too impractical.
But they had to do something to counterbalance the difference in height, weight and mass between males and females. Women do have smaller feet and hands than men though regardless of their height.
They can make adjjustible hoops.
shareThey don't though. Hoop diameter is standardized and the same for both males and females.
The standard diameter of a basketball rim is the same for all senior-level games, including high school and competitive men's and women's games.
https://www.networldsports.com/buyers-guides/basketball-hoop-height-guide
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Thus, the smaller balls amount to a handicap for women (in the golf sense of handicap).
shareThey are variants of the same sport. They aren't the exact same sport because the rules/regulations aren't exactly the same, but they are fundamentally the same sport.
shareYou're an idiot. Basketball is basketball. It's the exact same sport with variations in rules according to the league.
share"Fundamentally" but, not really. Imagine the men's scores playing with the women's ball! I'm not anti-women's basketball, I'm just saying the records should only be specific to the women's game. Why bring up Pete Maravich when talking about what's-her-name at--Iowa, is it?
share""Fundamentally" but, not really."
I already said as much.
"I'm just saying the records should only be specific to the women's game."
Yes, and isn't that already the case?
"Why bring up Pete Maravich when talking about what's-her-name at--Iowa, is it?"
I've never heard anything about that, and there was nothing about it in your post that I replied to.
"I'm just saying the records should only be specific to the women's game.
Yes, and isn't that already the case?"
No, aren't you aware of the brouhaha yesterday, when all the media were saying she broke Maravich's record?
"aren't you aware of the brouhaha yesterday"
No.
"when all the media were saying she broke Maravich's record?"
That's absurd. For one thing, Maravich played against men. Insert whatever her name is into a men's game and see how much she scores. She would instantly go from being the best player in women's basketball to the worst player in men's basketball. For another thing, no one can legitimately beat Maravich's record unless they go back to having no 3-point line in the game. Maravich would have averaged about 10 points higher per game had the 3-point line existed when he played, and that's not even taking into account how much more he may have scored if he'd had the extra-point incentive to shoot from 20+ feet away, which he didn't.
Those were the arguments put forward for restricting her claim to greatest scorer ever to greatest in the women's game, but in the end all the media went with the meme that she was the "greatest scorer ever in collegiate basketball!"
shareFirst he says they're not the same sport and then they're same sport. Look up the generic definition. Basketball is one sport but rules of play may vary.
Give up on that guy. Trust me. He knows everything and yet nothing.
She is the greatest scorer but you need an asterisk.
Yes.. One is played in theory by biological males and the other in theory is played by biological females(supposedly)
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shareNo, they are the same game but not the same sport. If they were the same sport they wouldn't differentiate between Men and Women.
shareSAME GAME...SAME SPORT...DIFFERENT DIVISIONS OR LEAGUES.
shareHow can it be the same game when the goal is to put a ball through a hoop, 18" in diameter, but the women's ball is 28.5" in circumference and the men's is 29.5." You seem like a smart guy. Please tell me you agree that a ball 28.5" in circumference is easier to shoot through the same hoop than a ball 29.5" in circumference. That's all I want you to acknowledge--there may be other factors affecting "shootability" (wind resistance? aerodynamics?) but I haven't heard them mentioned.
shareTechnically, yes, same sport. However, in addition to the difference in balls, men's college basketball is predominantly played above the rim, while women's college basketball is played below the rim.
shareLol, I've never seen a guy dribble above the rim. If you watch closely you will see that most passes are below the rim. Also all free throws are below the rim. Most shots except for dunks are shot from below the rim. So where do you get this "predominantly played above the rim" BS?
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shareNothing malicious in that link. Don't be so obtuse.
The men's game around the rim is played "above the rim." Not my opinion, but a fact. Guys can jump higher than women as a rule. If you want to grab a rebound or block a shot, chances are that you'd better be able to jump well above the rim to do so.
The women's game around the rim? Played below it. There have been a few women who have dunked a ball over the years, but nothing like the men, plus there hasn't been a woman who has CONSISTENTLY played above the rim like the guys.
Technically, men and women's basketball is the same sport: basketball. However, HOW the men and women play the sport differs quite a bit.