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Best 5 picture stretch ever?


Sixteen Candles (1984)
The Breakfast Club (1985)
Weird Science (1985)
Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986)
Planes, Trains & Automobiles (1987)

Does any other director beat this stretch?

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Yes Nolan: Batman Begins --> The Prestige --> The Dark Knight --> Inception --> The Dark Knight Rises --> Interstellar (yeah I know that's six films)

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1. ok
2. crap
3. ok
4. crap
5. meh
6. mega crap

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They are all on the IMDB Top 250, they are all great films. Memento, The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises and Interstellar are all in my top 25 of all time.

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Lol, the imdb 250 list. Crappy in itself. Wasn't that the one with Shawshank Redemption on top? But if you like those films, fair enough.

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Yeah Nolan is the greatest director ever.

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I have great respect for Nolan, but I don't agree with that. I'd put Kurosawa in front of him for sure, for instance.

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NOLAN IS REAL GOOD...HE IS ALSO NOT EVEN IN THE TOP 20 ALL TIME.

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Greatest director ever, you will not change my mind.

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IM NOT LOOKING TO...YOU PROBABLY WOULDNT AGREE WITH MY CHOICES EITHER...SIMPLY ADDING MY OWN OPINION.

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First I thought you were commenting on the Hughes list. I was like, Breakfast Club is crap? What on earth?

Now I see that you are refering to The Prestige. Again, wtf?

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I didn't see Intersteller, but I didn't like The Dark Knight Rises much at all. So I'd push back on Nolan there. I really like or love the others, though.

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The Dark Knight Rises is the greatest conclusion to any franchise I've ever seen, it's an amazing film. The only time Nolan let me down was with Dunkirk that movie was dumb.

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I like Return of the Jedi and Return of the King better by a lot. I think Jedi has some large flaws, but not as large as The Dark Knight Rises' flaws. I suppose that depends on whether or not you think Jedi and King are the last in those franchises. I'd say that they conclude their trilogies, but if you want to drag The Hobbit and the other Star Wars films in, that's another thing, I suppose...

But, again, I didn't like The Dark Knight Rises, which I think rambles and meanders. I don't think it delivers on its story very well and I think there are too many plot holes for it to remain enjoyable, for me. In that regard, I think I even prefer The Matrix Revolutions to TDKR.

What about The Undiscovered Country, though? As the cap on the original series Star Trek films, that's a pretty great film.

Is Logan the end to the Wolverine pictures? If so, that's a pretty stellar film.

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ROTJ was a good SW film but not the best, it definitely had issues. ROTK first of all LOTR isn't a trilogy it's just one film split into 3 pieces (kind of like how Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is one film split into 2 pieces), also LOTR had a TON of issues and plot holes that the books didn't.

The Dark Knight Rises didn't meander, it had a great story, great characters, great action sequences and is the most satisfying conclusion I have ever seen.

I never liked the X-Men BTW, out of the ones I saw none of them even measured up to Nolan at his worst.

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X-Men is a REAL peaks-and-valleys for me.

The first one is good, the second one is better, the third one is bad.

I avoided The Wolverine and Origins: Wolverine - didn't hear great things.

Days of Future past had cool concepts and a great Quicksilver scene. Other than that - bad.

First Class was okay.

Apocalypse was TERRIBLE.

Logan, though...that might be my favourite superhero film ever. It made it this family drama - a character piece - with really moving themes about aging and despair. Then it pretended it was a superhero movie and sprayed the whole thing down with western aesthetics...it was art. It stands as something that nobody else was doing with superheroes at the time, and hadn't ever really attempted. It's a brilliant film...

I thought Rises got lost with its subplots about Blake and Catwoman, had inexplicable gaps in logic (the stock market, the fire bat, etc.) and flew in the face of Nolan's own "real" Batman setting (one does not simply punch a spine into being healed).

I loved the setup with Howard Hughes Bruce. I thought the final set-piece of occupied Gotham was great, and a lot of the action was cool, yes. I thought Hathaway did a decent job as Catwoman, and the femme fatale Selina was great, but under-utilised and kinda distracted from the main plot. Tom Hardy was pretty good, although the voice was strange (I'd sale the same of Bale's Batman voice). I liked the return of the League of Shadows.

Overall, I didn't like the movie, whereas I did like Return of the King and Return of the Jedi. I can see your point, though, about Lord of the Rings being one "thing", and not really multiple stories.

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I liked the Blake and Catwoman subplots and they fit into the story and they had compelling character arcs. As for the Stock Market Lucius Fox said that he would have been able to prove fraud but Bane didn't need the plan to work in the longterm, he only needed it to work for a couple of days and Miranda knew Bruce would never want Daggett to get his hands on the Fusion Reactor. The firey Batsymbol was awesome and I have no idea what people have an issue with.

Yeah if I'm going to enjoy Lord of the Rings I'm just going to read the book, it was far better and didn't have the plot holes the movie has.

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I 100% agree that Lord of the Rings is superior as literature and Jackson didn't "get" the themes and ideas of the book as thoroughly as he might have (even accounting for the difference in medium). One of the best books of all time.

I didn't think Blake and Catwoman were given enough to do, that's all. I really disliked the cap on the Blake storyline, too (Robin? Really? A wink to the fans, but you couldn't even give us "Dick Grayson"?)

As to the stock market, the fact that it works short-term is what baffles me. The army of lawyers at Wayne Enterprises wouldn't let their majority shareholder get wiped out like that and have their stocks hit the floor and keep going. They'd stop it before it even started. His hydro goes out? Please. That any trades were honoured during a terrorist attack is...unbelievable.

The fire bat symbol looks great and it's a cool moment for the music to swell at, but Wayne is on a countdown to a nuclear apocalypse for Gotham and he spent some of that time...painting a flammable bat on a building? That would have taken *hours*. He could have disposed of the bomb in luxurious ease if he hadn't wasted his time with the building thing.

And, again: medical spine punching.

And...just...so many more points through the movie that I just couldn't buy.

In The Dark Knight, the Joker's plan makes not a lick of sense, but it never bugged me while I was watching the film. It was massaged in more. The Dark Knight Rises, this stuff drove me batty the whole time.

Pun intended.

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DUNKIRK IS ONE OF HIS BETTER FILMS.

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Dunkirk is his weakest, all it was was explosions, no characters, no story, no reason to give a shit. If I want to watch a good WWII movie I'll watch Saving Private Ryan.

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AGAIN WE DISAGREE...SAVING PRIVATE RYAN IS GREAT...THERE ARE DOZENS OF BETTER WWII FILMS THOUGH.

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Dunkirk is certainly not one of them.

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I AGREE...WHILE I THINK DUNKIRK IS GREAT,I WOULD ALSO PUT SAVING PRIVATE RYAN HIGHER.

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To me Dunkirk is better than Black Hawk Down and We Were Soldiers but that isn't saying much.

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his floor across those films is good but the peaks are another story

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Stanley Kubrick:

Dr. Strangelove (1964)
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
A Clockwork Orange (1971)
Barry Lyndon (1975)
The Shining (1980)
Full Metal Jacket (1987)

Again, more than five.

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I thought of him too -- but I'd go one back to Lolita and dump The Shining.

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Beat as in have more movies in a row or just better movies...?

Woody Allen: Zelig, Broadway Danny Rose, Purple Rose of Cairo, Hannah and Her Sisters, Radio Days
I'd also say he hit it with Take the Money and Run through Annie Hall (six films, actually), but I probably like Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex (But Were Afraid to Ask) more than most. I prefer Allen's work to Hughes'.

I haven't seen The Hudsucker Proxy, but if it's awesome, then Joel and Ethan Coen went Raising Arizona, Miller's Crossing, Barton Fink, (Hudsucker), Fargo, Big Lebowski, and O Brother Where Art Thou? for seven films - but that hinges on Hudsucker.

Wes Anderson: I really like his stuff, though I certainly understand why somebody wouldn't... But he's never missed, in my opinion...

Did Kubrick ever miss? I haven't seen a lot of his stuff, but the general reception to each of his films seems crazy positive...maybe excepting Eyes Wide Shut. Surely 2001 or Dr. Strangelove being on the list is worth something. Either way, that's 10 films, not counting EWS.

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in a row

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Oh, uh, yeah, but does it mean that to "beat" Hughes, do the films have to be five films of superior quality to Hughes' five, OR does it mean that they have to just have six or more "very good" films in a row to beat Hughes' streak?

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Idk. Like said above, his floor is good across those five but how many reach the heights?

What if you have 3 or 4 greats and then a good and mediocre?

I'm thinking Hitchcock might be there

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3 or 4 greats and a then a good is still really good, IMO. Look at all the directors that make a great and then just completely fall off in the next one or two.

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that's what I'm saying. some have 3 monsters and 2 ok but that's still a very good average over 5. I think the Hughes films have a good floor but a lower ceiling.

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I left Hitchcock out of my list for that reason. I stuck to people whose films, I think, hit a reasonably high floor with some really, REALLY high peaks. Kubrick, in particular, has masterworks which are all but unbeatable mixed in with "really great" stuff.

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I meant Hitchcock would be there based on his criteria rather than what I was describing. I was describing someone like Coppola or Spielberg.

I can make a case that Hitchcock had a high floor for 10 films in a row.

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I haven't seen enough Hitchcock to make that claim. I've never seen a Hitchcock film I haven't liked, though, and Rear Window blows my mind every time I see it.

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Rear Window thru Marnie is pretty high. And I'm not as big a fan of his as most.

Rear Window
To Catch a Thief
The Trouble With Harry
The Man Who Knew Too Much
The Wrong Man
Vertigo
North by Northwest
Psycho
The Birds
Marnie


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Marnie's on my list of films I really want to watch. Love Hitchcock, and I'm very intrigued by a Connery film being a Hitchcock film.

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I like Vertigo and Psycho. The Birds is decent, I liked Dial M For Murder until the very end, Rear Window and North By Northwest never did it for me.

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Yes, in a row.

I really admire any director that can be that solid over a stretch. If it were sports, you would say that they were "In the zone" during that time.

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So, yeah, I'd still say that Allen's six there, the Coens' seven, and then Anderson and Kubrick with basically a filmography of nothing but "hits" probably count as having out-zoned Hughes?

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I would not dispute them for sure. Remarkable consistency.

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I haven't seen enough Kurosawa, either, but I'd be willing to be that he managed a five picture streak at some point in his unbelievably brilliant filmography.

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James Cameron:

The Terminator (1984)
Aliens (1986)
The Abyss (1989)
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)
True Lies (1994)
Titanic (1997)

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Yes, that's a heavy hitter right there.

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No disrespect but teen movies are above dramas. So this run doesn't count.

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Rob Reiner had a great 5 picture stretch:

Stand by Me (1986)
The Princess Bride (1987)
When Harry Met Sally (1989)
Misery (1990)
A Few Good Men (1992)

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Yeah, that is a great entry.

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