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Was Simon Pegg's comments childish?


Yes, I know that Pegg already has apologized for his comments and I'm not saying that the man isn't entitled to his opinion. However, I do think his comments are rather revealing. If you don't know what I'm talking about and I talking about Pegg's controversial comment with The Guardian in which he said. v


Pegg, who played chief engineer Scotty in the recent Star Trek films, added: “Obviously I’m very much a self-confessed fan of science fiction and genre cinema but part of me looks at society as it is now and just thinks we’ve been infantilised by our own taste.

“Now we’re essentially all consuming very childish things – comic books, superheroes. Adults are watching this stuff, and taking it seriously.

“It is a kind of dumbing down, in a way, because it’s taking our focus away from real-world issues. Films used to be about challenging, emotional journeys or moral questions that might make you walk away and re-evaluate how you felt about … whatever.

“Now we’re walking out of the cinema really not thinking about anything, other than the fact that the Hulk just had a fight with a robot.”

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/may/19/simon-pegg-criticises-dumbing-down-of-cinema

Again the man is entitled to his opinion and defend his right to say not and not have to apologize for it. However, I felt the need to roll my eyes while reading his comments. Pegg has point that there needs to be more diversity in current cinema. Yet to claim that sci-fi/fantasy genre automatically equal chilidishness is in itself a childish comment. By making such a comment Pegg confirms the stereotype that most geeks are in indeed childish. Because it's very childish to want to appear "grown up" by wanting to watch "grown up" films. The acclaimed novelist C.S. Lewis said it best. v


“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

Geeks like Pegg should adapt this same sentiment, when it comes to comic book movies and genre films. But too many of them are like Pegg in which they want to appear "grown up" much like a ten year old child.



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I like Simon Pegg and I think he makes a somewhat-good point about us wanting to "tune out" the big issues in our society. But...I also really, really love that C.S. Lewis quote and agree completely.

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Yep.
Tough one.

Can I agree with both?

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If he really believes what he's spewing, perhaps he should act in movies that live up to his qualifications. He seems to have no problem cashing in checks for Star Trek and Mission Impossible movies. Even the movies close to his heart are nothing but tongue in cheek genre flicks(aliens, zombies, robots.) And his begging to get a cameo in Star Was 7 was pathetic. It makes me kind of sick that Lucasfilm and JJ Abrams obliged him.


What a hypocrite.


"Visions are worth fighting for. Why spend your life making someone else's dreams?"

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J.J Abrams actually asked Simon Pegg to make an Appearance in The Force Awakens. Like how he asked him to be in Mission Impossible 3 and Star Trek. J.J loves working with Simon.

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Have you seen his trilogy of which you called genre only flicks. Each movie touched on very real social issues and relationship issues with the genre as a back drop. They were very much old school sci-fi with a focus on social content and commentary. Seriously, watch the film's before you comment on them, and if you have seen them. ..then you shouldn't admit it because wow. ..just wow...the term thick comes to mind if you have.

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Never stated there was anything wrong with his genre films. They are well written and largely entertaining with some smart social commentary. But they're not exactly "Birdman" or "Whiplash." In the end, people saw them for their genre elements, not their messages. And there's nothing wrong with that. If he's really serious about what he's saying, he should star in a a hard drama that doesn't rely upon the more fun elements or comedy. I actually think he could be great in it.


"Visions are worth fighting for. Why spend your life making someone else's dreams?"

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Ok. I apologize for being a jerk. That was more clear and I respect that opinion. I don't think it's necessary to be in a hard drama, but I get the point and think it's valid. Sorry for coming off snarky. I appreciate your comment. I wish people did read more into sci-fi genre flicks because the social commentary is amazingly witty and intelligent, but I agree that too any people that just see the surface.

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No offense taken. And Pegg actually did make a good point originally: there is a lack of big budget, non-comic book, non-franchise movies.

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