Spending Millions for Trump Miltary Parade Poll
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I think he should just go to a Veteran's Day parade and honor the deceased soldiers on Memorial Day.
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what? what parade?
shareTrump wants a military parade like autocrats in China, Nazi Germany, Russia and North Korea have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIKoHYtYxs
American taxes at work.
That was a Chinese parade not American. lolz at fake facts.
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That was a Chinese parade not American. lolz at fake facts.
Wow, you're quite the genius. Of course it's not American. That hasn't happened. It's what's Trump wants. It was an example showing what Trump wants to do. Like the US is some regime who has to prove it's might to the world.
You're clearly a Trump supporter. Misunderstanding everything around you and yelling "fake fake fake.....". share
Thank you for helping Bubbathegut to understand what I thought was obvious.
shareThis is what K wants for America. I will not let this happen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXBnrF9IMes
You're projecting.
Bothered about Russia? Not Trump voters - BBC News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL0V177eLuY
Interesting how Trump supporters are bothered by freedom of the press, but not Russian meddling in our elections nor the fact that Trump is in bed with them.
This is how the dems feel everyday. I certainly don't want America to be like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-S0T4xTdLY
Bubbathegut, I hope you'll learn one day that Trumpism is not Conservatism nor Republicanism.
shareI think Trumpism is better than Obamaism. Trump is trying to do the right thing but is getting backlash from the Dems and Repubs.
shareWhat you consider the "right thing" is considered the "wrong thing" with Dems and Repubs.
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It all depends if you see the glass as half full or half empty. Every 4 to 8 years there is a flip flop of narratives.
Obama tried to do the right thing as well but failed. As I remember, Hope, Change and Transparency was his motto.
The "wrong things" I was referring to:
*Huge tax breaks for the super rich (which benefits himself) that the middle-class will repay
*Supporting abusive men like Roy Moore and Rob Porter
*Attacking and trying to destroy affordable health insurance
*Supporting Russian spying on America
*Attacking American law enforcement agencies like the FBI and CIA
*Destroying the environment
*Being divisive by attacking people based on religion, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation and gender
*Attacking freedom of the press, freedom of expression, freedom of religion and other Constitutional Rights
*Breaking campaign promises like getting rid of the swamp and increasing the deficit
*Making racist policies re: immigration and supporting Nazis and other white supremacists
*Supporting cruel policies like deporting Dreamers and defunding programs to help impoverished persons
*Pathological lying
*Attacking women rights like freedom to choose and defunding health care for poor women
*Wasting taxpayer money with weekly trips to his golf courses
*Not hiring qualified people to run the Federal Agencies and allowing many agencies to be short-staffed including agencies that protect Americans
*Not properly addressing/funding/managing the disasters in areas like Puerto Rico
*Allowing people without proper clearance having access to classified information
*Denigrating the office of the President and the reputation of the American people worldwide and attacking our foreign allies
*Unilaterally destroying international agreements which makes the U.S. perceived as undependable and dishonest as well as increasing risks
*Taunting foreign leaders who may be unstable therefore risking warfare
*Supports unhealthy and dangerous policies like no gun control and canned foods to the poor. BTW, an overweight McDonalds food junkie shouldn't tell anyone else how to eat.
*Attacking equal voting rights
*Unconstitutionally not separating religion from government
Here are some more "wrong things":
IRS targets Obama’s enemies
Benghazi
Spying on the AP
The ATF “Fast and Furious” scheme
Sebelius demands payment
The Pigford Agriculture Department Scandal
The General Services Administration Las Vegas Spending Spree.
Veterans Affairs in Disney World and neglecting vets
Solyndra
New Black Panthers Voter Intimidation
The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer
Obama’s LIES about the Affordable Care Act
“I’ll Pass My Own Laws”
NSA Spying on American People
Foreign Policy
Lack of solidarity with Israel
Disaster with the Arab Spring
Crimea
Leaving Iraq too soon and letting ISIS take over
Handling of Syrian Red Line
Calling ISIS “JV”
Failing to Recognize ISIS as a Radical (or Devout) Muslim Movement
Returning the bust of Churchill to the Brits
Lack of Confidence by NATO nations
Signing a Disastrous Nuclear Deal with the Mullahs of Ira
Paid $5 Billion & Released 5 Taliban Prisoners For Deserter Bergdahl
Waging war by attacking Libya without Congressional approval
Allowed the building of Chinese bases in the South China Sea and off the coast of Somalia at the entrance to the gulf of Aden
Paying ransom to Iranian for hostages- and using foreign currency in unmarked plane
Lying about paying ransom (which media ignored!)
Pays tribute to Japanese at Hiroshima on US Memorial Day
Obama trashed America 18 times on Asian Tour
Pushing the U.N. resolution condemning Israel for legally building houses in Jewish neighborhoods
Released $221 million to the Palestinian Authority in last few hours
Domestic Policy
Failure to secure the Border
Illegals bringing guns, drug and diseases through the southern border
Bowe Bergdahl swap
Passing on the keystone pipeline
9 Trillion dollars more in debt
Vast expansion of government
Racial Division at all-time high
Inviting Bomb Boy Ahmed to White House
Disrespect for Cops
Failed economic stimulus plan
Constant disregard for the Constitution and tyrannical rule
China overtook America as world’s largest economy
Double Downgrade
Housing policies failed to stop foreclosures
Price of healthcare has drastically risen for those purchasing it
Education policies failed to curb college costs
Highest percentage of Americans on Food Stamps and Medicaid
Record 92,898,000 Americans over 16 years not working
Lowest Labor Force participation rate of 62.7%
Denying the notion of American Exceptionalism
Securing the Olympics for Chicago in 2016
Naming numerous Communists/Socialists/Progressives to Czar Positions
Mismanagement and cover up of Terrorist shootings in San Bernardino, California
Mismanagement of Gulf Oil Spill
Disastrous Vetting Process of “Immigrants” from Muslim Nations
Refusing to Listen to CIA/FBI that there is no way to properly vet certain immigrants from Muslim nations
Fort Hood Shooting
Colorado EPA Disaster
Veto of 911 Crime Bill- which was overturned
Worst economic recovery since the depression with anemic GDP numbers
Over 94 million Americans out of the workforce
Obama commutes sentence on Chelsea Manning
Obama commuted the sentence of FALN activist Oscar López Rivera
Obama isn't president.
I was specifically replying to your comment about why Trump was receiving backlash from Democrats and Republicans. What I listed aren't things that most politicians nor the public would support which is why Trump is getting backlash and his popularity is extremely low.
Are there things in that list that you support?
BTW, every single thing I listed pertains to only Trump. You listed many things that had nothing to do with Obama, but like I said, he's not president so I don't see the point in addressing it.
The only people that support those supposed claims are Dems. You see when "your" candidate doesn't win people will lash out and make false statements all day long. Ex MSNBC. On the flip side when Obama was President, Fox News denigrated Obama 24/7. I have said this many times before but it is a vicious cycle of back and forth between the two Parties. No one Party is better than the other and no one President is better than another. They all have faults. If a person thinks that "their" Party is always right and should be in charge then they are knocking on the door of Communism.
The only thing I support is keeping America great and safe.
I got all those talking points from a Rep. website so it has to be correct, right?
If Obama is irrelevant, then in 4 to 8 years Trump will also be irrelevant. Then whomever is President will receive all the hate once again.
As South Park once postulated, who do you vote for when you choices are turd sandwich and a giant douche?
I agree with everything you wrote except 2 things:
1. "The only people that support those supposed claims are Dems."
That's not true. He is making some Republicans angry, too.
You're in denial if you aren't aware that he has turned off many people in this country while many Republican politicians have behaved cowardly.
I find it interesting that you haven't named anything that Trump has done that you support. You just seem to support him because he's not Obama which seems a bit shallow.
2. "I got all those talking points from a Rep. website so it has to be correct, right? "
Sarcasm, right?
Re South Park: People vote for what's in their best interest, too. BTW, I don't expect any politician to be perfect. There is a difference between a politician who makes mistakes (who doesn't), incompetence and criminality.
Yes, Trump will be irrelevant in 4-8 years with one exception. He's wrecked the Republican Party for at least a generation. I don't see many Independents, Hispanics, millennials and women voting Republican for a long time.
I neither support Trump or not support him, if that makes any sense. Its a lose lose situation if either Trump or Hillary is President. Hillary would continue the status quo while half the country hates her. At least Trump is shaking things up albeit not in a good way. And also half the country hates Trump as well.
People will forget about Trump the day after he is no longer in office just like everyone forgot about Obama, Bush, Clinton etc.
"Trump is shaking things up albeit not in a good way."
I don't understand why that's a good thing. Why not elect politicians who want to help most Americans?
Trump is continuing the status quo, too. The rich are still controlling things, he hasn't drained the swamp - and won't, he's increasing the deficit, etc. His style of tweeting, being crass and not PC doesn't mean anything when conditions haven't changed for the average American - or has become worst. The super rich are doing very well under him, though.
"I don't understand why that's a good thing. Why not elect politicians who want to help most Americans?"
Thats a good question and I have been wondering that myself for years. The bigger question is how did we end up with two choices that were Hillary or Trump.
Trump has only been President for little over a year, I don't think anyone could change America in that time frame. Could he change it in 4 or 8? Probably not, because the Rep and Dems in the House and Senate are the ones that could really change America for the better. But they are too busy doing the blame game all the time and nothing ever gets done.
Sadly the rich will stay rich and will always come first in America. Corporations spend millions and millions on lobbyists to get laws changed in their favor so they can make more money and get more powerful.
I saw this on PBS but didn't get a chance to watch it all. It was written in 1879.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_and_Poverty
Rich people only care about money is just a fact of life and Trump is no different. In fact everybody involved in the political machine is rich and doesn't care about regular citizens. That includes Dems and Rep alike.
We need a third party, Independents who can win or moderates who are willing to compromise.
The people need to rise up against lobbying. Citizen United v FEC Supreme Court case was a travesty. Politicians won't represent people as long as they receive billions from corporations. Paul Ryan received $500,000 from the Koch brothers after the huge pro-rich tax giveaway passed.
Notice how angry the high school students are about lax gun laws and how the politicians are patronizing them? Politicians will wait until the students get bored and move on. Nothing will change. They need to do more than marches and it will take years of fighting. If young people nationwide boycotted movie theaters, sporting events and malls, stricter gun legislation would happen fast. It's always about the money - lives aren't important.
Both parties serve the rich, but
Republicans tend do it more and to an extreme. Democrats tend to be more for the poor and middle class. Clinton wouldn't have given the rich a huge tax cut.
I hope you don't believe that Trump intends to help the average American. If so, you're going to be very disappointed.
The Independents haven't been able to scrap up an intelligent person in years. If they can find someone with a mix of Reagan and Obama then they might have a good chance at winning. Unfortunately Americans are too brainwashed and accustomed to the 2 party system and would never vote in a Independent or any other party.
Both Parties are a yin and yang, you wouldn't want both to be constantly raising taxes, who knows what that would do to the economy. I won't be disappointed because I don't really care who is President anymore. Nothing ever changes and my life continues on.
Both Sanders and Trump are really Independents, but chose established political parties because Independents aren't going to win. Maybe the future will be different.
"Nothing ever changes and my life continues on."
I've seen plenty of change in my life, but a lot of it was started by ordinary people demanding it before politicians acted. If those young Floridians continue fighting for gun control, then it'll happen. I'm not sure they'll continue, though.
Autocrats like the French? LMAOOOOOOO
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastille_Day_military_parade
I already addressed France a few days ago if you scroll down about 8 message boards.
To save you the trouble, I wrote:
"Apples and oranges in regards to France. Their parade celebrates Bastille Day, the French Revolution and their unity. They also invite foreign soldiers to march or sometimes lead. Last year, American soldiers marched and Trump was invited.
Different culture, different history and different message."
France is "apples and oranges" ... but not autocratic nations like Russia or China, with whom we have far more cultural differences? Epic cognitive dissonance.
shareThere is no freedom in Russia and China. Trump's mindset is similar to a Putin, Erdoğan and other autocrats. Military parades and giant photos of him everywhere would be his dream come true. Remember, this is the same guy who stamped his name on every building unlike what most developers do.
France rejected LePen in favor of Macron for president. They were smart enough not to fall for Russia's meddling unlike Americans.
Not only is it a stupid idea, it also seems to have zero support outside of Trump's immediate inner circle (and even they don't seem to enthusiastic).
sharefor it.... they also have one in France.
trump could cure a disease and the libtards would still criticize him
Apples and oranges in regards to France. Their parade celebrates Bastille Day, the French Revolution and their unity. They also invite foreign soldiers to march or sometimes lead. Last year, American soldiers marched and Trump was invited.
Different culture, different history and different message.
Donald "my nuclear button is bigger than your nuclear button" Trump is an autocrat. Eventually, he'll want all Americans to have large photos of him everywhere.
Lol, they'd accuse him of hate crimes against a minority virus,or blame him from reducing funds going towards health care.
shareTOTALLY AGAINST.
That tax money could be better used elsewhere in our country, rather than one of his vanity projects.
Maybe he liked what he saw on D. W. Griffith's The Birth of a Nation and the Prelude to War episode of World at War.
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