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NK revs up it's nuclear program - thanks T-rump!


Remember when Rethuglikkans were talking Nobel Peace Prize for T-rump when he met with Kim Jung Un a few months ago? Yes, the mighty dictator was negotiating peace with Lil' Kim, who promised he would dismantle his nuclear program - and T-rump believed the fine man.

Looks like - to no one's surprise - Lil Kim is actually doing the opposite:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/un-north-korea-has-not-stopped-its-nuclear-program

Hold that Peace Prize, T-rumpanzees! It's not time yet...

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Don't really hear those Nobel chants at rallies anymore.

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LOL! Me neither - wonder why? Then again, the QAnon gang have really overtaken with their "Fake CNN News!" chants.

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Thanks Obuma for winning the Nobel Peace Prize and solving the NK problem.

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Obama never boasted to the world he was going to solve the NK problem, as T-rump did (and then declare it was solved and he was a 'hero'....and later ignore the problem when his solution back-fired).

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Bubba's just embarrassed.

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If I were a T-rump supporter, I would be, too.

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Great point. It'd be kind of hard not to and maintain any self respect. 😱

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At least Trump tried, its better to try and fail then to not try at all. You are either for change or the status quo.

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At least Trump tried, its better to try and fail then to not try at all. You are either for change or the status quo.


That's not true for every situation - and certainly not this one. He has become a laughing-stock around the world, where once the President of our great country was highly revered.


Bottom line: He failed. And if there's one thing T-rump can't stomach is anyone who fails. He's a failure, and so are his offspring (especially Ivanka). Failures - or, as he likes to say: "Complete Catastrophes" one and all.

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Thats interesting cause I thought Obuma was the worst president. According to this book it says Obuma was a complete failure.

https://www.amazon.com/Worst-President-History-Legacy-Barack/dp/1682618137

"Now that Barack Obama is out of office, presidential "experts" and historians are ranking him as one of our nation's greatest presidents, placing him amongst Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, and Truman.

Obama's presidency was certainly consequential, but it was by no means great. The "greatness" narrative is being pushed by the media and the Obamas' inner circle, who working aggressively to ensure their version of Obama's legacy is written into the history books.

How can you discover and protect the truth?

Matt Margolis and Mark Noonan have compiled everything you need to know about the presidency of Barack Obama into a single source. First published in 2016, this book has now been updated to include the entirety of Obama's presidency and the shocking details that have come to light since he left office.

The Worst President in History: The Legacy of Barack Obama compiles two hundred inconvenient truths about Obama's presidency--the facts that define his legacy: his real impact on the economy; the disaster that is Obamacare; his shocking abuses of taxpayer dollars; his bitterly divisive style of governing; his shameless usurping of the Constitution; his many scandals and cover-ups; his policy failures at home and abroad; the unprecedented expansion of government power...and more.

The Worst President in History: The Legacy of Barack Obama is your ultimate guide to Obama's real presidential record--the record he'd like history to forget."

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Yes, I'm sure a book written by two white conservative authors on a liberal minority President won't be biased at all. It will only be filled with actual facts, honesty and truth by these two Republican authors. LOL

The smart readers (like myself) will take a pass.

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So you are saying the opinions of other people don't matter?

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Are you saying the opinions of other people don't matter because two guys wrote a hyperbolic book?

I mean these people:
Now that Barack Obama is out of office, presidential "experts" and historians are ranking him as one of our nation's greatest presidents, placing him amongst Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, and Truman.

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Are you saying the book was written as an extended op-ed? If so, you didn’t make that clear on your earlier posting.

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Honestly, we have no evidence that he even tried. We have evidence that he tried to piss Kim Jong Un off several times on twitter though. Is that also better than not trying?

It would seem to be that if Trump deserved the Nobel Peace Prize after failing to fix the hornet's nest that he previously struck, then the Nobel Peace Prize is something every president can achieve simply by trash-talking a foreign dictator on social media. Though it's kinda funny how we'd never see Trump attempt it with Putin.

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The article mentions oil, coal, and arms. Zero facts about nuclear.

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Spent a half hour just grabbing as much as I could from the so called "report"

"a massive increase in illicit ship-to-ship transfers of petroleum products" (Associated Press) "has not stopped its nuclear and missile programs and continued to defy Security Council resolutions through a massive increase in illicit ship-to-ship transfers of petroleum products, as well as through transfers of coal at sea during 2018" (Reuters)

"increasingly sophisticated evasion techniques" (Associated Press) "increased in scope, scale and sophistication" (Reuters)

"would have to immediately halt all such transfers" (Associated Press)

"prohibited military cooperation with the Syrian Arab Republic has continued unabated" (Reuters) "attempted to supply small arms and light weapons and other military equipment via foreign intermediaries" (Al Jazeera)



I hate that people are so lazy as to never read the references an article has rather than reading a partisan viewpoint... see what the report actually says, except the report does not seem to be anywhere. This makes me curious three different news agencies got access to a Confidential report (because their reporting of what the report contains is different, three different agencies had to have got this report.)

One thing I've noticed over the years is that what is reported that an academic article says or some government report says... is often not what it actually says but what the news agency wants it to say. The quotes tend to be accurate, but are taken out of context, finding something like

"There is no evidence to suggest that North Korea has not stopped its nuclear and missile programs" which becomes "North Korea has not stopped its nuclear and missile programs", other cases I've found other cute ways of omitting information like that.

I'd be interested in seeing the report itself, but I have doubts as to whether it exists at all. There is too much change between the news reports, people adding their own influence you see.

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