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So i was watching this news video


And it made absolutely so much sense moreso than any news story i seen in along time. That's when i realized i was watching a Russian News program and thats when i realized why this liberal war against Russia is happening.

Because Russia is one of the last bastions of sane media left so naturally the mentally ill americans condemn Russia

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You're batshit insane.

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Striving for normalcy in society is not bat shit insane the liberals ready to start WW3 over taking all the normalcy out of society is bat shit insane and is holding back world peace and propagating the war to end all wars

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I'm not calling you batshit because you're striving for normalcy. You're not.

I'm calling you insane for ingenuously calling Russian state sponsored propaganda a "Russian news program" and accepting what it's telling you at face value.

FYI: There is no free or independent media in Russia. You know why? Because your crony capitalist neocon war hero, Dick Cheney and his corrupt administration of war criminals were too busy plundering Iraq and getting filthy rich steering spoils to Halliburton. Dick was preoccupied with his PNAC fantasies of nation building instead of keeping his eyes on the ball to ensure that our #1 geopolitical adversary of the previous half a century didn't veer back toward autocracy. Putin exploited the Cheney administration's negligence by spending 2003 seizing control of all privately owned Russian television stations.

In other words, there hasn't been a real "Russian news program" broadcast out of Russia for the last 15 years. You got duped.

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Lol!!!

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Liberals are ready to go to war with Russia and Civil War at home and all the rest of us want is for you to STFU and keep all the gay and tranny stuff away from our kids. Now who is the batshit side?

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You're just another stupid cuckservative who believes sanctions are the same thing as going to war. You prefer the draconian ways of disallowing gay people to marry just so you can have something that they can't.

As for transgenders, it's morons like you who want people like this:

http://point5cc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Point5cc-Blog-TransFitness2.jpg

...to use the women's bathroom simply because he was born with a vagina.

You're the party of stupid as well as ignorant.

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I have a better idea where they can piss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUyWN00cgPA

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More from the party of stupid and ignorant. You don't even know what your own position is. All you know is to be against something because "blue team bad."

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My postion is that there are two genders whats yours?

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Bos, are people still debating this? This heresy of denying biological science and data is astonishing.

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They probably would have beat Trump if they werent all up in everybodies face demanding sexual deviant men be allowed to use the bathroom with your daughter

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How about a sexual deviant like T-rump walking into dressing rooms with your daughter changing up for the beauty pageant? Or a sexual deviant like T-rump grabbing your daughter by the pu$$y first time he meets her, because he believes she'll enjoy it?

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Daddy, I'm very sorry about your infatuation with the boogeyman. Just count to ten and he'll go away. Ok?

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Tried that. He's still in Office.

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What science is being denied? Sex is biological, based on chromosomes and/or primary sex organs. But gender is how we perceive people in general society. In general social discourse where clothes are essentially mandatory, you cannot see a person's chromosomes or primary sex organs. When you meet someone for the first time at a grocery store or wherever, what "science" are you using to determine their gender? Not even Ben Shapiro could answer that one.

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YOUR definition of gender is extremely subjective. Sex and gender are the same. This might be a little difficult for you to grasp, but here it goes. Men have a penis, and women have a vagina. Men cannot give birth to a baby. Women can only give birth to babies.

To answer your last question, science cannot prove everything, as I cannot 100% be certain if a man is a man or vice versa from pure speculation. BUT, it has proven this whole sex/gender thing that you seem so confused about and the store analogy has nothing to do with the evidence that sex and gender are the same. Sure, someone may feel a certain way, or be attracted to the same sex, but those have nothing to do with gender/sex and instead has to do with one's environment.

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"To answer your last question, science cannot prove everything, as I cannot 100% be certain if a man is a man or vice versa from pure speculation."

Being unable to be certain of someone's gender has nothing to do with science. It's all observation. When you see someone at the store, science cannot help you. When you're naked with a trans woman who had her penis turned into a vagina, science cannot help you. You have to rely on something else. You say a man is someone with a penis, but society has never accepted that a baby boy is a man. Manhood and womanhood have always been subjective no matter how much you tell yourself otherwise.

"BUT, it has proven this whole sex/gender thing that you seem so confused about and the store analogy has nothing to do with the evidence that sex and gender are the same."

Proving gender and sex are the same is impossible. Proving they are different is quite simple though, it's just that not everyone agrees.

Here's how it works. If the majority of society wants him:

http://point5cc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Point5cc-Blog-TransFitness2.jpg

To use the men's bathroom, then gender exists.

If the majority of society says he is a she and must use the women's bathroom, then gender and sex are the same thing. Which side do you think the majority of society sides with?

You're fighting a losing battle, and that's the real problem here. The reason you are fighting is because you are losing. Just like with gay marriage, you see the direction society is going. That causes your conservatism to become reactionary. So you all strike up the band to try to change people's opinions back to the way they were. But the sad reality is, by the time you realize it has changed, it is already too late.

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First off, to be losing a battle someone has to be fighting. I don't look at us as fighting, but having civil discourse. Secondly, I'm not a conservative. I don't give .02 about gay marriage. They wan't to get married? Cool cool. I don't care.

You say, "Manhood and womanhood have always been subjective no matter how much you tell yourself otherwise." This is not true. By law, there are minors and there are adults. This refutes your claim. Up until a couple decades ago, transpeople were deemed to have a mental illness. This also refutes the claim, "You say a man is someone with a penis, but society has never accepted that a baby boy is a man." The DSM-4, I believe? I could be mistaken about the volume.

To clarify, I never claimed that gender didn't exist. I claimed that sex and gender are the same. Also, I don't care about what society says, as this should be pretty obvious regarding the subject matter we're discussing. I also don't care about the majority. This is a sincere question, Ultra. WHY should I care what society and/or the majority thinks when it come down to my individual free-will to think and act how I want? Should I let them govern me those ways?

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My position is you are a complete moron on the subject. Case in point, the number of genders doesn't apply here. Transgender does not mean non-binary. Transgender means going from one to the other, and the vast majority of them are perfectly fine being accepted as one of the two genders.

So like I said, you don't even know what your position is other than "blue team bad."

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Blue team bad because blue team glorify mental illness. Blue team very, very bad.

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It wasn't too long ago that being gay was considered a mental illness by right-wingers. Before that, interracial relationships were considered a mental illness by right-wingers. They couldn't prove the illness, so they lost those fights. Now all trans people are just mentally ill, but again you can't prove the illness. I'm sure it will work out for you this time :)

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"Refusing to insult/bash/hate" something is not equivalent with "glorifying." The glorification can be left to the transgender peeps, and their friends/family.

What's the use in being stuck up and getting upset that transgender people simply exist?

Maybe fundamentalist religious views are a mental illness. I'm a firm believer in nonexistence of deities but I wouldn't bash a fundy for being "ill." Its counterproductive, a misuse or even a waste of mental processes.

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You were more interesting under your old user name.

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Pravda means truth!

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Dial it back, Thrillhouse. Your baiting is far too obvious.

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I ain't Trillhouse but i'll tell you what i agree with him man

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LOL! You'll have to excuse me if I take your post with a grain of salt.

Also, I'm not surprised you agree with him. Birds of the same feather and all that...

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