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best President since Trump

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Hear hear!

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Bring back the Trump.

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It's never going to happen. Trump is through.

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Through the Trump we can have a better America.

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it will, unless the dems cheat again.

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The Democrats were so good at outsmarting the Republicans that they rigged the 2020 election using millions of co-conspirators without getting caught. What does that say about Republicans? Since the Democrats got away clean for rigging the 2020 election I'm sure they will do it again 2024.

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they have been cheating since 1963, so they are really good at it...

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Here is the link to the law you keep on claiming does not exist. This is where bump stocks are defined as machine guns. Why do you keep on insisting upon being ignorant?

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-27/chapter-II/subchapter-B/part-478/subpart-B/section-478.11

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what law? how is a bump stock a gun?

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The link above. Here is the relevant part;

Machine gun. .... The term “machine gun” includes a bump-stock-type device, i.e., a device that allows a semi-automatic firearm to shoot more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger by harnessing the recoil energy of the semi-automatic firearm to which it is affixed so that the trigger resets and continues firing without additional physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter.


What part of that did you not understand? This is what trump directed the ATF to do.

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but a bump stock is not a gun so how can it be a machinegun?

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Because a machine gun is whatever the law says it is. The regulation that Trump ordered the ATF to amend says a bump stock is a machine gun.

Why is it that almost everyone else understands that a gun is a gun because there is a law that says what a gun is? Why not you? You claim that you define what a gun is and not the government. That is stupid.

Not everything that shoots a projectile is legally a gun. Not all things that are legally guns are capable of shooting a projectile.

Federal law says that auto sears are, by themselves, machine guns. Do you also say the law is wrong here too?

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no it isnt. laws are dumb, and a bump stock is not a gun...

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Even the dumb laws are still laws. If you were accused of bump stock possession, would your lawyer try to get the charges dismissed by saying the law is dumb?

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I dont need a bump stock...

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Don't be a coward, answer the question. Would your lawyer try to get the charges dismissed by saying the law is dumb?

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my lawyer would, because its a dumb law.

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Then your lawyer is dumb.

He would have a better chance by saying president Trump overstepped his authority by classifying bump stocks as firearms. It worked for Ajay Dhingra. Sure makes Trump look like a dumb-ass though.

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we are using the chewbacca defense....

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What red herring will you use when the prosecutor simply shows the jury the actual written law? Will your lawyer attempt to appeal for jury nullification?

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we will use the 19th amendment. because some laws are dumb...

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The best since Reagan.

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Trump was an anti-gun zealot like Reagan was.

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What do you think of Dementia Joes recent gun grab?

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Biden banned/grabbed forced reset triggers like Trump grabbed bump stocks. Not sure if Biden's grab was bigger than Trump's though.

The Biden administration's new rule on gun frames does not actually ban/grab any guns. It does tighten restrictions on partially machine gun receivers that are sold with a drilling jig.

This does not outlaw ghost guns as a person is still free to make any non-NFA firearm without a license, serial number or registration. Legal guns without serial numbers will become more rare though.

Look on page 324 for details on what is and what is not a gun frame.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/rulemaking/final-rule-2021r-05f-definition-frame-or-receiver-and-identification/download

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New gun grab in the works by the Dementia Joe regime, here we go again.

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There was no gun grab in that final rule. Why didn't you read it instead of assuming it was a gun grab?

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Biden hasn't reversed Trumps gun grab yet, so Biden is a gun grabber.

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Everyone knows Biden is a gun grabber. Do you believe Trump is a gun grabber yet?

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But it’s (D)ifferent when he does it.

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How so? Republicans are always opposed to gun grabs when the democrats do it. But when the Republicans do it, it is okay for some reason.

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Biden is a gun grabber and should be removed immediately!

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Trump isn't President anymore so he isn't a gun grabber.

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Trump was a gun grabber back in 2019. That does not count anymore? Does this mean Bush is not a gun grabber anymore also? What about Clinton?

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None of them are, as I still have guns and have access to buy guns.

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You can't buy bumps stocks and forced reset triggers anymore. You can thank Bush, Biden and Trump for that.

It is really messed up if you think gun grabs are okay as long as they do not affect you.

That is what the anti-gun democrats like to say. "We are not anti-gun because you can still buy some guns, just not the ones we don't like".

It is people like you that demonstrate that the new anti-gun zealots are the Republicans.

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Thats fine, I have no use for those and since they are not guns it doesn't infringe on my 2nd Amendment rights.

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So you're fine with more restrictions on silencers, machine guns, destructive devices, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, gadget guns also?

Exactly what restrictions are you okay with?

If Trump is re-elected and decides to classify all semi-auto guns capable of bump fire as contraband machine guns, you will be okay with it?

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I already have a short barreled rifle, its a .350 Legend. You don't need anything shorter as the ballistics would be off.

I am for common sense laws. But then again laws don't apply to criminals or those who want to do harm. Guns don't kill, people do.

If they are capable of bump fire then they should be banned. There is no need for a civilian to have a automatic weapon.

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What kind of rifle do you own? Is it actually a short barreled rifle with a barrel under 16 inches or an overall length less than 26 inches? If it is longer, then it is legally not an SBR.

You say things that most of the anti-gun zealots say. "You don't need that". This makes you an anti-gun zealot.

Almost every center-fire pistol or rifle is capable of bump firing, even without a bump stock. Every AR-15 in 5.56, M-1 Garands, M-1A's ect can bump fire. This includes pistols like a 1911 in 45 ACP and Glocks in 9mm. All of them are capable of bump fire. Look on YouTube for videos.

Only anti-gun freaks say civilians should not own a machine gun. This is anti-gun Democrat talk.

I group you in with the typical stupid anti-gun clown that tries to say they are pro-gun but thinks other people should not have what they want.

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Its a Savage .350 Legend, it has an 18 inch bull barrel. Which is good for walking in the woods deer hunting.

I have a 26 inch muzzleloader and you hit every branch in the woods, it gets annoying.

Yeah you can put you finger on the trigger and your thumb through your belt loop and simulate an auto.

Biden and the other 45 Ex Presidents wont let me have a fully functional A-10 so therefore they are all gun grabbers. I am disappointed in Washington for not letting me have one.

I also want a SeaWhiz for squirrels.

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The Savage 350 Legend is not an SBR. You need to learn more about NFA law if you want people who are not fellow anti-gun zealots to listen to your claims/opinions here.

Start here; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act This gives a good overview.

Here is a link to a firearms reference guide; https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/guide/federal-firearms-regulations-reference-guide-2014-edition-atf-p-53004/download

You really do act like the typical anti-gun nut. You think Americans should only own certain kinds of guns and want to see the rest banned.

You're an example of the "guns-er-bad, except for the kind I own" gun control nut.

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A bump stock is not a gun.

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Trump, the ATF and the CFR all say a bump stock is a gun. Who are you to say otherwise?

You now next to nothing about gun control law. You should stop making a fool of yourself on this forum.

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I know guns and own them. The Gov make a law about anything. It doesn't mean it makes sense.

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Even when the feds don't make sense, it is still the law when they make it.

You don't know guns. You can't even define what is a gun and what isn't according to federal law.

Did you read the links I provided? You will learn much if you do.

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Bump stocks and slide-fire devices are accessories; however, when they are assembled, they are considered a “machine gun”.

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I have posted the relevant CFR enough to times to know that you are lying when you claim that a bump stock is not a machine gun.

A bump stock is legally a machine gun whether it is attached to the frame or not.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2018-12-26/pdf/2018-27763.pdf

The Department of Justice is
amending the regulations of the Bureau
of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and
Explosives (ATF) to clarify that bump-
stock-type devices—meaning ‘‘bump
fire’’ stocks, slide-fire devices, and
devices with certain similar
characteristics—are ‘‘machineguns’’ as
defined by the National Firearms Act of
1934 and the Gun Control Act of 1968

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A bump stock is not a gun. It CANNOT fire a projectile.

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Guns are not only defined by the ability to fire a projectile. Why can't you read and understand gun control regulations?

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The Gov can pass any kind of law they want. If the Gov passed a law that said that woman couldn't vote, would you support it?

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I would not support it.

What does this have to do with you not being able to understand what the law says about the definition of a firearm?

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I dont support the law that says bump stocks are guns. Do you see the symbolism?

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But it's Trump's regulation. You kiss Trump's ass all the time, why not support his regulation?

The regulation still says bump stocks are machine guns even though you do not support it.

What is the symbolism behind Trump banning bump stocks by classifying them as machine guns?

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I dont recognize the law because obviously a bump stock CANNOT fire a projectile.

If you cant see the symbolism then you have been retired too long and need to exercise your brain.

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The meaning of the regulation does not change just because you do not recognize it.

What symbolism are you talking about?

Would it be the symbol of Trump's disgust towards gun owners and the 2nd Amendment?

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lol 🤣, You have been dragging this subject for over eight months. You are like a dog with a bone.

You and the other lefties are suffering from an extreme case of OCD+PTSD+TDS.

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I have been actively lobbying for less gun restrictions since 2009.

I have been attacking anti-gun zealots that support Trump since 2019.

So the people who oppose anti-gun politicians like Trump are lefties now?

What kind of screwed up place are you coming from?

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how is a bump stock a gun?

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Because federal regulations say so. That is it. That is how everything else that is a gun, is a gun. How is it nearly everyone understands what the law says except for you?

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that doesnt seem right. does a bump stock have a trigger guard?

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The law and Trump do not care about your interpretation of the laws and regulations.

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laws are laws

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You keep claiming they are not and that you are actually the law.

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which law is that?

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A bump stock is not a gun.

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Amazing President! Thank you President Trump for being a great President.

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An aberration

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thats dementia Hoe, well actually he is an apparition...

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Apparition?

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Trump a great american!!

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Yup, we need Trump back now.

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Trump is great.

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...for me to poop on.

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pics?

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So you have a scat fetish. That figures.

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gross

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stop calling him "donald trump". it's inmate no. P01135809.

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