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Problems with the basic plot


This is an entertaining movie, well-made and historical and all that stuff. But when I look at the basic plot of the movie, it is fairly weak. The Oz stuff is a dream (in the movie version), but still Dorothy did not know this, and we are not to know this until the end; and so it should follow some logic, understanding that the movie occurs in a setting of Munchkins and witches and flying monkeys and a talking lion etc.
Dorothy wants to go home upon arriving in Oz. She told this to Glinda (good witch), and Glinda told her to follow the yellow road to get to the Wizard in order to get home. But, Glinda could have simply told Dorothy that she could go home right now (and never have to deal with the Wicked Witch and not have to travel the yellow road etc.) by clicking her heels. Instead, Dorothy was nearly killed by the Wicked Witch because of this journey. The only explanation given of this at the end (when Dorothy basically asks this question of Glinda) is that Dorothy would not have believed Glinda, but this makes no sense. Why would Dorothy have not believed a good witch at that time? Dorothy certainly believed Glinda in following the yellow road to go to a wizard, which is no more incredible that clicking one's heels. Dorothy then says some jibberish about home ("If I ever go looking for my heart's desire again, I won't look any further than my own back yard. Because if it isn't there, I never really lost it to begin with.") But Dorothy left home not to seek fortune or adventure (in the movie); she left only to save her dog, and after meeting with the Professor she wanted to go back home. So Dorothy always understood the value of home. Dorothy did not really grow or learn anything along the trip. The others changed during the trip, but not her. So the trip seems to have served no purpose for her.
And if Dorothy could kill the wicked witch with water, why did Glinda not give her that valuable tip? (It's hard to believe that Glinda would not have known this. And Glinda has no problem intervening in such things as she took the shoes from the dead witch and gave them to Dorothy, and she intervened during the poppy scene by making it snow.) Dorothy was saved only by a quite random event, i.e. the witch deciding to burn scarecrow, Dorothy trying to save him, the presence of a bucket of water, and the water accidentally hitting the witch. It's not as if Dorothy and the others defeated the witch through wit or perseverance etc.
And as for the Wizard, he sent Dorothy (a child from his world) on a life-threatening mission, when he apparently had no intention of helping them (as after they got the broom he told them to come back later), when he could have simply sent her back home in his balloon from the beginning, and he comes across as this kind old man. He only helped them when Toto fortuitously pulled back the curtain, and he decided to come clean and help them (and to go home himself).

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You have completely overthought the entire movie.

It was a dream. No logic need be found anywhere.

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You have completely overthought the entire movie.


Exactly what I was going to say! 🙄


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Well, as said at the beginning, "The Oz stuff is a dream (in the movie version)," so that point is well-understood by all. It's all a dream and/or fantasy and so anything is possible. But at some point a movie (dream-based or otherwise) must have some basic logic, or else we might as well just look into a kaleidoscope f we just want to see pretty colors, or watch any B-rated sci-fi movie if we want to stare at fanciful characters. The director must have felt some need to explain why Glinda withheld this information from Dorothy; i.e. he did not just let everything be explained by irrational behavior; and so he understood the need to have some logic to that part of the plot.
I think the truth in this is that the book was different; i.e. Dorothy wanted to leave home due to wanderlust, and so the journey to Oz actually helped her to appreciate her home and helped her to grow; but this is missing from the movie and so there is an oddity here in the movie. (I've not read the book, but I have read several comments about the book.)
Translating any book to screen is difficult, and this movie was no different, resulting I think in some wrinkles. But if one wants to say "It's all just a dream so who gives a hoot," then more power to them.

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The movie is Dororthy's experience in Oz. We see what she sees (with a few minor exceptions).

You question Glinda's actions.

This is not my theory but it applies here:

GLINDA is the true villain in Oz.

Glinda wanted to control Oz but not seem like a tyrant. There were three people preventing this 1) the Wicked Witch of the East 2) the Wicket Witch of the West and 3) The Wizard of Oz.

Yes, she could have told Dorothy to click her heals and go home but Dorothy had just landed and killed the WW of the East. So one was down.

Glinda then sends Dorothy to the Wizard knowing that he would want to go home himself and that he could not leave the people of Oz with the WW of the West still around. So he has Dorothy get the broom of the WW of the West. Glinda could not tell Dorothy how to kill the WW because that would make her (Glinda) look bad in the eyes of many (no matter how evil someone is killing still bad . The Wizard, not being a witch, did not know how to kill her either.

So Dorothy goes to get the broom and accidentally killed the WW (Bonus!!).

Dorothy comes back and now, and only now, when Glinda is on the verge of being the only power in Oz does she tell Dorothy what to do. The Witches are Gone and the Wizard is on his way home too.

Only when they are both out of site does Glinda turn on the Munchkins and the citizens of Oz.

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