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Bad casting. Judy Garland looks nothing like her on-screen family.


I have never seen a dark-brown eyed redhead, why did they cast her family as being fair-haired with light eyes.

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The majority of redheads have brown eyes, I think Judy looked lovely with auburn hair - it really suited her colouring. The only fair haired/blonde family member was the older brother who looked a little out of place with his sisters and parents being auburn or brunettes - it's not uncommon for that to happen though.

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Reminds of a post on the HORSE FEATHERS thread many years ago. The guy complained because he didn't think Zeppo looked enough like Groucho to portray his son! Huh??
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I think Judy looked lovely with auburn hair - it really suited her colouring.

Judy herself has said that this was the first time she felt attractive in a movie. She credited Minnelli's direction and camera work.

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I never disputed Judy Garland's looks. She was very beautiful, however she looks nothing like her on-screen family.

We're on a mission from God.

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I never disputed Judy Garland's looks. She was very beautiful, however she looks nothing like her on-screen family.

I was not addressing you, I was addressing kaydie-fee.

Anyway, I don't think actors should be cast to resemble one another. It never bothered me or never really occurred to me.

But you are more than entitled to your opinion.

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I think there might have been two different fathers...maybe even three. ;)

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Actually, Esther's hair wasn't auburn (despite what she said); it was more of a reddish blonde.
It was Mrs. Smith and Rose who had auburn hair.

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I thought Rose looked like Mary Astor's daughter, though. In fact, I came on to this site to check if she really was.

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Actually I checked because I thought you may have been more correct than anyone realized. Genetically two blue eyed parents can never have a brown eyed child but a brown eyed parent paired with a blue can have either color. Brown is dominant blue recessive. The bottom line is two blues can never make a brown but if one brown is in the equation any color is possible. Mary Astor had brown eyes so did Judy so it's fine.I cringe sometimes when Hollywood makes that mistake, everyone was supposed to learn that in biology.

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Genetically two blue eyed parents can never have a brown eyed child but a brown eyed parent paired with a blue can have either color. Brown is dominant blue recessive. The bottom line is two blues can never make a brown but if one brown is in the equation any color is possible.

That was the old thinking. Turns out it was incorrect. Eye color in humans is more complex than the simple dominant/recessive model.


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Thanks, I will gladly look at the research. I just found and skimmed this so I appreciate your bringing it to my attention

http://genetics.thetech.org/how-blue-eyed-parents-can-have-brown-eyed-children

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You're welcome. Nice to see someone who knows how to use Google.

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Your welcome, I started using Bing about three years ago instead of Google. I do believe we are witnessing a situation in our culture where a brand name has become so ingrained in our language that it became the definition for the action. It is more convenient to say Google than to say check for information on the internet so Google is now a verb. TY

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I learned a lot of stuff in school, but that doesn't mean I still remember all of it decades later!

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Ever hear of recessive and dominant genes?

I'm short, heavyset, dark haired, with deep green eyes.

My brother is tall, lean, pale, with rust-red hair and light blue eyes.

Guess we couldn't cast him as my brother, huh?

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Nothing to see here, move along.

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I honestly don't give a fµck.

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I take it that, the three oldest kids, Rose, Lon, and Esther, with the red hair, take after their mother, and the two youngest, brunettes, take after their father.

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Judy Garland's natural hair color was dark red (auburn). So red-haired people obviously can have brown eyes.

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I always thought Auburn was her natural hue but according to Judy herself, her natural hair was very straight and Black/dark brown, when she was cast as Dorothy in the wizard of oz they had her wear a long blonde curly wig, Judy loved it so much she wanted to wear it it to school - MGM's wardrobe department didn't let her (the wig wasn't used in the final film, they dyed her hair auburn and put it in braids instead)

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The wig department at MGM was huge. They used handmade human hair wigs that were glued to the actors faces if there were not bangs. They also used a lot of hair pieces, falls and extensions. Probably the only actor in this movie who was not wearing some sort of hair appliance was Margaret O'Brien.

That's Hollywood !

Happiness often sneaks through a door you didn't know you left open.- John Barrymore

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