Life with an *beep*


I stumbled upon the old classic recently and found it to be one of the most disturbing movies I hve ever seen. This is a horror movie, disguised as a 1940s black and white classic.

I found Clare to be one of the most dispicable movie characters in Hollywood history.

OOOOH GOD!!!!!!!!

The sad thing about this movie is that it is a pretty good portrayal of men in the USA in the late 19th century. No wonder the women's lib movement sprung up....

This is a vile man...a vile creature....but sadly....this type of man was the norm back then...and even today....they exist...to torment and demean women!!!

Vinnie sacrificed her body to bare 4 sons from this monster...and yet she was treated like dirt.

Furthermore, I hate William Powell for even making this movie. He has always been one of my favorite actors....whether it was the The Thin Man movies....or his later supporting roles like Bill Cole in Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House or the navy ship doctor in Mr. Roberts...

He looked like he enjoyed his role too much in Life With Father....and I will never think of him the same again. I know it was just an acting job....but this was all too common for a way a man thought back in the day...and the low esteem they held for women....

Sincerely

A 21st century man...

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LOL. I know you're being funny but I agree, though not as hysterically, with your assessment, namely:

"The sad thing about this movie is that it is a pretty good portrayal of men in the USA in the late 19th century. No wonder the women's lib movement sprung up....

This is a vile man...but sadly....this type of man was the norm back then...and even today....they exist...to torment and demean women!!" So very true!

I think previous poster put it best: "Life with a Control Freak"

BTW: Melvyn Douglas, not William Powell, portrayed Bill Cole in "Mr. Blandings..."

"I told you a million times not to talk to me when I'm doing my lashes"!

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Thanks for the William Powell/Mervyn Douglas correction......much appreciated. Now I can go back to enjoying Mr. BBHDH again...one of my all time favorites. I watch it about once a year...

Still.....I loathe this movie LWF....and was stunned by its meanness...

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Agreed. Claire is obviously in love with his wife and is really wrapped around Vinnie's finger. Watch the scene near the beginning when he asked Vinnie to keep a better account of her expenditures. She proposes opening accounts at stores so that he can pay the bills and she doesn't have keep track. He agrees so that they won't argue.

Vinnie invites guests when she doesn't want company staying with them. He offers to pay for them to stay at a hotel. Regardless they stay so that she isn't angry at him.

In reality Claire isn't the one in control in the house.

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Sacrificed her body to bear him children? Lol. And in return, she gets a ridiculously comfortable life complete with servants so she never has to do a single thing for the rest of her life. Let's be honest. It was not a sacrifice. It was a bargain she made.

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True but remember women had extremely few choices when it came to their lives. If she had the opportunity to make her only money, I doubt she or any other woman in her right mind would have married a man like Mr. Day. That said I still adore this movie.

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You said, "If she had the opportunity to make her ONLY money."

I can't imagine what that means; that any money she earned would be for her alone and not shared with the family?

At any rate, it is a "popular" notion that women are only worth what they earn, but it used to be that a woman's life was dependent on the man she married, which meant women needed to marry as well as they could.

Few choices? There were TWO! Get married and have the man earn the money or stay single and earn your own money. Now, there are NO choices! (Married AND working is the WORST of both worlds.)

In those days of supporting women, men were happier, and more content, and had more free time, children were happier, more successful, and were less anxious, and women were happier, more content, and more fulfilled (when they didn't have to get up early, and rush to be part of the rush hour, and then spend the majority of their day in a boring job, doing what they are told).

"Earning money" is highly overrated. It is much nicer to sleep in, and spend your time as you wish. I feel very sorry for the "modern woman" who is run ragged, and aren't even allowed to rear their own children, and then have to either take care of their home in their spare time, or live in a mess, or nag their husbands (I've seen the kind of work done by "professional housekeepers" and it is pathetic).

Vinnie had it made and she knew it! She had Clare wrapped around her finger (and he loved it).

The obnoxious "women's movement" made slaves of all women; again, we now have NO CHOICES! Women are told to "get a job" and that is it.

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"obnoxious women's movement"? Do you mean the one that gave women the right to vote, the one that allowed talented and independent women the right to pursue careers in science and medicine?

And why shouldn't the men do more of the housework and child-rearing (I am a man, by the way)?

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My husband works and supports us while I take care of our two boys. We both love our arrangement. I love picking my kids up from school and making dinner every night. I feel so lucky to be able to be a stay at home mother and a good wife. I know society looks down on me, but I don't care. My kids are growing up so quickly and I enjoy all of the time I have with them. I worked as a flight attendant and had my own apartment before I married, and I enjoyed it at the time. I worked a few years as a flight attendant and finished my college degree in the first few years of marriage. But I am quite happy and content with my life now. We are really a lot like a 1950's family. It does help, and only works, because I am married to my best friend. We love and respect each other and both have wicked sense of humors (gotta laugh during the hard times- like when our oldest was diagnosed with autism). We will celebrate our 25th anniversary this Wednesday. I do wish that more women that want to be stay at home wives/mothers could do so. The economy plays a part in things, but I also don't think as many men today would be willing to support a family on their own. It's really gone out of style to be a housewife or stay at home mom. But it really was, and is, a wonderful blessing to be able to do so.

"Getting old is not for sissies."
Bette Davis

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ms-trixi, I wish more people shared your attitude. You remind me of the way things were when my brother and I were growing up in the 1950s and 1960s, and there isn't anything at all wrong with that.

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Pssst! It's not in black and white. It's full Technicolor.

Carry on.

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Lighten up, guys! This is a comedy about a gruff, boorish and pompous but essentially lovable and loving family man. It is not a social tract about life in the 1880's. Character comedies like this use character exaggeration to make points about human nature.

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He was pompous but likable- his bark was worse than his bite and he obviously loved his wife. He would have been mortified had he thought his sons frightened to talk to.him.

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Jeez, people.
This was a comedy written by MEN!
Look how many men in today's tv shows and movies are obnoxious know nothing idiots...how much better are they than "Father"? You can see echoes of this same character in movies and Tv even today.

I've seen it several times in my life and I take it for what it is.
Mr. Day loves how wife and children although he doesn't show it easily and he seems to think he rules the roost despite the fact Mrs. Day gets anything she wants out of him. If that isn't obvious to you, you're projecting your issues onto a 60 something year old film.

Lighten up and enjoy it or don't watch it. It's your choice. I think ranting about the fate of all women from over 100 years ago based on a fictional comedy and taking a dislike to someone's entire catalogue of work over this one picture is a bit much.

And this from a 21st century independent woman....

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LOL. Couldn't agree more, chaosrainz. Too many "manginas" out there.

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I haven't seen this movie yet. But I know that lots of working class men (and their working sons) brought their pay envelope home unopened (they were paid cash back then). They gave it to their wives and received an allowance for incidentals like a beer after work and tobacco.

She had the responsibilty of stretching the money to fit their budget.





I don't know everything. Neither does anyone else

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I haven't seen this movie yet.


I hope you've seen it by now - that way you'll know for yourself that virtually everything the OP says is 100% B.S. (Talk about being unable to differentiate a flippin' movie from reality - hoo, boy!)

It's a delightful film, one that I've watched and re-watched dozens upon dozens of times. There's a good reason it has an average rating of 7.3 from over 3,000 users...
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As I understand it, it is not entirely "fictionalized." It was written by Clarence Day Jr., about living with his father. Vinnie (the real one) was actually a consultant and condoned Irene Dunne's portrayal. This was a pretty accurate description of the real Mr. Day but the caveat was that despite his gruff exterior and sexist ways, everyone really loved him.


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So judgemental. People managed to live happy and fulfilled for thousands of years before you came along. And 100 years from now what will people think of you?

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It's the age we're living in.Everyone is being taught to be offended and serious about nearly everything.

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Wow. Seek professional help. There is something seriously wrong with you. You go way beyond the current "overly thin skin" epidemic. Talk about being offended by nothing. And don't try to be a big man taking up the cause for women. You sound like a delusional, pathetic, lonely loser who's never known the touch of a woman.

This movie was great and William Powell was outstanding. He was robbed of the Oscar. Furthermore, he was extremely likeable and he clearly had no problem allowing his wife to be the boss. That was made abundantly clear. If you can't see things realistically, you should stay indoors and away from society. Your entire understanding and perception of the movie couldn't be more wrong.

People like you poison the world. You twist things so severely that nothing is acceptable anymore. Everything is offensive. The really twisted thing is you. What a sad, miserable life you must lead. No one wants to be around you, or hear you, so you spew your idiocy on the internet, hoping someone will listen.

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He was pompous but likeable - his bark was worse than his bite. His reaction to her life being in danger brought tears to my eyes. My reaction to Mrs Day being described as a "Miserable sinner" by the church minister would have been a lot stronger than his!

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It amazes me how many people miss the entire intent and point of this great movie. Oh well, their loss.

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