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Anyone notice the glass cut?


Within the first twenty minutes of Rope, Philip cuts his hand after breaking a glass. Moments later, a woman is reading his palms and there is not a single wound. Make no mistake in thinking that this is an error on Hitchcock's part. The palm reading scene was to directly point out that Philip's hand was never physically hurt. Let's take it one step further.

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I'm surprised this part hasn't been mentioned yet. Rupert's hands are clearly shown many times throughout the film. There is not a single wound on them, not wrapped, nothing. They are even shown seconds before he opens up the the case where David's body lay. After the case is opened, we move up and the first thing we see is a cloth wrapped around Rupert's hand, the exact hand where Philip got the cut from the glass.

Does anyone know what to make of this? It was all done on purpose, but I really don't know what they could be trying to say. Perhaps that Philip was upset about the death of David, and in a moment of discussing him, the fact is so clearly shown in a wound. The wound wasn't physical, but everyone was asking him if he was all right. Then when Rupert opens the case, he realizes the boys did the murder because of his theory, which would put the guilt onto him. I'm pretty sure that's it, but does it go any deeper?

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bump! I think this is something really interesting that most people have missed!

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I was wondering the exactly same thing! You know what though? It probably is just a continuity error that isn't really supposed to mean anything. They probably forgot it it at the beginning and didn't want to re shoot the entire scene or out of the many scenes they shot they probably found that scene to be the best, even though they forgot about the hand.

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I would typically agree, but Hitchcock makes you notice it. Right after he cuts his hand, he gets his palm read. It feels like it was intentional, so that you would notice that he no longer has the cut. Then when we see Jimmy Stewart close the coffin his hand is free with no bandage, then when we move up our eyes are drawn to the bandage (it's pretty much the first thing we see). Stewart wasn't cut a single time in the movie. The wound has been transfered from the first guy's hand to Stewart's, and I'm positive that it wasn't a continuity error. It's killing me! I can't figure out what he's trying to say for the life of me! I don't know if I wrote this before, but perhaps it's simply saying that Brandon has the guilt of the murder in the beginning, and it was his fault, but later on Rupert feels the guilt for telling his classmates his theory on murder, which they acted on, which makes him the primary person at fault?

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Rupert's hand was shot in the struggle, we clearly see him wrapping it as Brandon is apologizing for Phillip's behavior. As for the cut on Phillip's hand, it was apparently only a tiny cut that produced a fair amount of blood, and he was able to stop the bleeding quickly. I have had many such cuts, so I regard it as neither a continuity error, nor symbolism.


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Philip hurts his hand and covers it up for some time with a bandage. This soon comes of and Philips wound seem to have healed, at least his hand is clean, no blood on it. If you follow it from there; we do get some close-ups on his hand, although always filmed from an angle that doesn't show the area between his thumb and index finger (where he was cut).
That was my conclusion. Although I haven't keept focus on his hand during the entire remains of the film. It might be that you at some point can clearly see that there is no wound whatsoever. If so, whats the big deal? A misstake during the shooting.

Rupert then; he hurts his hand while fighting for the gun with Philip. Directly after the fight he wraps his hand with a napkin from his pocket. This is shown clearly. The only goofy thing about this is that the movie is cut when Rupert opens the chest, when opening it there is no blood on his hand. Seconds later when the camera moves upwards there's blood on his bandage.

You have overanalyzed the film on made up conclusion. Although, if it hadn't been, you made some good remarks.

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There used to be a post about this before, but there doesn't seem to be anything before 2009 on these particular forums now... that's odd. I had images uploaded to imageshack before, but I didn't think that I'd have to remember where they were in case posts got deleted...

Oh well, here's one super image (112kb jpg):
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9048/ropecuts.jpg

The first two screens show exactly where the cut was situated, on the skin between his right thumb and forefinger. There is some blood, but it doesn't appear to be all that bad. The third screen shows him still favoring his injured hand. It is a little harder to see the cut, but the way he is handling himself makes it seem like he's not imagining it. He then proceeds to wrap it in a handkerchief.

The fourth screen shows a mark on the back of his hand in the same area as where he got cut, but it has healed to a certain degree. It is important to note that the movie itself is not real-time, but somewhat faster than real-time (as mentioned in the trivia). It's plausible that his hand could have healed to a certain degree in this sped up time.

The fifth screen is nothing conclusive, but there is a shadow on the back of his right hand that doesn't look quite natural given the other shadows in the scene (perhaps owing to make-up applied).

And that's my take on it. My belief is that Phillip did indeed cut his hand, and it healed somewhat by the time his palms were read.

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Not on the original question, but marq ed's comment. I have also noticed threads I participated in myself have been removed for some shows and don't know what to make of it.

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I think it might have been to show that Rupert had the blood on HIS hands, moreso than Phillip. Some debate as to wether Rupert was as guilty as the duo for the murder, by his teachings.

Well, Brandon was clearly guilty, but we felt like Phillip maybe didn't want to get mixed up into this (he felt remorse) and that he maybe just got pressured into doing it, because of pally Brandon... and also teacher Rupert.




Brandon would have done it anyways, whereas Rupert's thoughts even though maybe not so extreme had their repercussion on a man to be named Philip, who carried out his thoughts in a proportionally not-so-extreme manner, but just enough.( All this showing that be even just doing a tiny thing wrong, it might influence someone who would normally not do something, but pushed by the others, he decides just barely to do it.)


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WT! Just barely, tiny thing wrong? Seriously? 1st degree murder is what it was. No matter how many influences. He strangled him with intent!

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I noticed it the second time I saw Rope and I dismissed it as perhaps he cut his finger, not his palm. But then, I realized that Hitchcock was being symbolic.

Some might argue that we're over-analyzing what we're seeing, but remember Hitchcock is a very meticulous director, going over and over and over how a film is going to be shot well before principle photography even begins.

It was Phillip who did the actual murder of David. Yes, it was clearly Brandon's plan. This is significant. It was Brandon's plan, based on Rupert's notions of inferior and superior beings. But Brandon couldn't have done it himself, he needed someone capable of the deed, with strong hands.

This is symbolic of the relationship between Rupert and the ultimate act of murder perpetrated by Phillip, instigated by Brandon.

Phillip isn't a cold, calculating man. He doesn't come off as ideological, intellectual in the sense of the academic, but rather he's a piano player, and he's going to deliver a concert performance. He wants to be admired, he seeks the approval of others, whereas Brandon does things to get an effect out of people. Brandon is the risk-taker, Phillip is the thug who desires Brandon's approval. Phillip didn't kill David for the thrill of it; he killed David because Brandon put him up to it.

It must've taken some doing over the years to bring Phillip to this point. Brandon, again, didn't do it alone. He had Rupert there to help him move Phillip to commit murder. Brandon, in effect, used Rupert to undermine Phillip's conscience, in much the same way he used Phillip to undermine David's life.

I found it equally symbolic that it's Rupert fighting with Phillip for the gun, getting it out of his hands, taking away Brandon's last minion, wounding himself in the process. He has as much blood on his hands as Phillip does, and he has to account for himself for what his ideas led to.

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I thought the bandage on Rupert's hand was very symbolic, in an almost too obvious way, to show that they are possibly all equally responsible for the murder.
Who's to blame for this mans death?
The person who plants the seed of thought or the one who carries out the act?
All are perhaps.
It's just one of Hitch's many examples of clues that lead to open ended questions left for the viewers to determine what the answers are.
It's all meant to be very thought provoking, and clearly, it all works.

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I thought the bandage on Rupert's hand was very symbolic, in an almost too obvious way, to show that they are possibly all equally responsible for the murder.
Who's to blame for this mans death?
The person who plants the seed of thought or the one who carries out the act?
All are perhaps.
It's just one of Hitch's many examples of clues that lead to open ended questions left for the viewers to determine what the answers are.
It's all meant to be very thought provoking, and clearly, it all works.

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To me, while the script emphasises Brandon's (moral and ideological) guilt through his lines, the camera emphasises Philip's guilt as the physical murderer. It is written all over his face and then the constant emphasis on his hands. Some see it as bad acting but I like how physical Farley Granger is as an actor, he doesn't really have to speak to act.

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The novelization offers a fairly banal explanation:

"He pulled out a handkerchief to wrap around the small cut on his palm..."

A couple of pages later, when David's aunt reads Phillip's palms: "He had removed the handkerchief now, and the cut was dry."

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Yes wonderful observation. It means that the two have the "blood on their hands" - Philip for physically committing the murder and Rupert for - though unconsciously - teaching Brandon to do it. He was their teacher after all and his pseudo philosophical part jokingly chatter about how murdering would solve ticket-queue problem is reckless coming from the mouth of a teacher.
This kinds of motions and hidden messages are so distinct in nowadays cinema. This is why Hitchcock is the absolute number one.

Too bad your topic was created four years ago and we cannot continue the conversation.

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