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Here's a question that came to mind when Spencer Tracy said this quote: Who giveth this woman? "This woman." But she's not a woman. She's still a child. And she's leaving us. What's it going to be like to come home and not find her? Not to hear her voice calling "Hi, Pops" as I come in? I suddenly realized what I was doing. I was giving up Kay. Something inside me began to hurt.

I didn't see all of the movie, but Elizabeth Taylor in real life was 18 at the time...these days it seems that most people that age, you'd think they were already moved out of their parents' homes long before they get married. I don't know, but there's something to that whole thing that just seems kind of wrong. I can't really explain it, but in a way, it just doesn't seem right that 50 years ago, women were still at home when they married so their parents didn't have to get broken hearted until after the wedding...whereas now, they go off at whatever age they do, meet somebody, announce they're getting married (at the times they even bother to marry) and MAYBE the family all gets together for it.

Oh I can probably bet what people are going to say: "Women didn't have as many opportunities then as they do now, they HAD to stay home"...it's one thing to leave home because you have something that you can't do while still there...but I think a lot of them who attend school and find jobs, probably could do so and still be living with their parents for the time being. It wouldn't be forever of course...I just don't see why so many go rushing off at the first chance they get. I mean it always looks promising, but the first chance isn't always the best one. And, women who are working or attending college in the town, they could still stay at home, and for the time being cause they could contribute the money for groceries and bills and the rent...so it would be relative to if they had their own apartment or their own home.

I don't know what it is...but I mean like in movies like...You Can't Take it With You, from 1938...there were 2 grown daughters, in the movie their ages were never mentioned, in the play, Essie was 29 and married, and Alice was 22, they were still living at home with their parents...of course, EVERYBODY lived at home with their parents, their grandpa, the ice man, an accountant...I don't know, maybe it's just something done for the movies, but I rather prefer the image of the kids grow up, but they're still around so the parents (providing they're good parents) still have their 'little girl' or 'chip off the old block' around, for the time being anyway, instead of they run off and only occasionally remember to call or visit. Or about everyone else?

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I`m not completely clear on what you`re saying. Do you like the fact that she still lived at home, or did you not like it? Maybe you don`t understand it?

It was`nt entirely unrealistic for girls to still live at home until they were married, provided the family was well off financially. Most girls did go on to college or had jobs and lived at home, but the norm, in the 50`s and the early to mid 60`s was to snag a husband, and hopefully, a good provider, and have babies, and be Mrs.Suzie Homemaker...... till reality and the times that were a changing set in. That was the way it was with all of my older sisters...a few have been divorced and remarried since.... Having been born in the mid 50`s, I was a teen, and young adult in the late 60`s/early 70`s, and had a different outlook. While it puzzled my folks, I felt that I should be albe to take care of myself, and do other things before marriage. I was`nt looking for a husband. I wanted to try a few things on my own before that. I joined the Army. After that, I met someone and got married....
As for the 1930`s, my folks told me that many families all lived together....Grandparents, adult children...etc... It was practical! The depression was not an easy time. You needed all hands on deck! In most cases, it was survival.
Times do change. I find it sad somtimes, that families are`nt as close knit as they use to be, and I do talk from experience.
What goes on in the movies is`nt always realistic, but the movies do reflect the times in which they were made.

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The obvious reason, and what you thought I would say, is that the girl, who can't get a professional job, could not afford to have her own home. Of course Elizabeth Taylor could move into some small apartment with whatever money her parents gave her, or maybe some little job, but the job and home wouldn't be fitting for her family's stature. Also, she wouldn't be able to live in the way to which she had become accustomed.
What I really wanted to say though, was that it's more about the parent-child relationship from then to now. In some cultures it's insane that the child would leave the home at 18 to go off to college, because it would hurt the parents. They can't understand why Americans children would do such a thing to their parents. Though that is it to a relative extreme, it's what I'm trying to say.

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Families of those days did frequently live under one roof. Houses were much bigger and money seemed to go a lot further. When my aunt graduated from college in 1955 as a teacher, she wanted to get her own apartment. My grandparents forbid it because it wouldn't have been respectable for a young woman to live alone -- she might be "talked about." So my aunt lived at home with her parents until her marriage a couple of years later. I often wondered why she just didn't defy her parents -- she was 22, earning her own money, and could have done or gone wherever she wished. I guess that wasn't done either. =

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taylorje is right. Living alone in that era was frowned upon. There was a minor industry in "women's" hotels or apartments in big cities for women who took jobs but needed to keep up appearances and avoid stigma. It was a different time.

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Uh, you do realize that the phenomenon of adult children continuing to live at home has become much more common again in the last 15 years or so, and especially now with the economy in the shape it's in? ;-)

Just a note - IIRC, in the original novel Kay's character is 24, not 20, yet *she* still lives at home, too. I agree that when parents and adult children get along, this arrangement can be a very good thing.

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I believe that Jessica656 is correct here - in fact the practice of living with one's parents until one is 30 or so is almost - but not quite - the norm.

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I was married at 27; I'm 1/2 Italian. As it happened, my grandparent's neighborhood was going downhill so they moved in with my parents when I was 18. Of course, it helps when everyone gets along. My Nonna adored my dad, her son-in-law. We also had 4 bedrooms and a basement so there was lots of room.

I saved A LOT of money while at home and was able to get a house right off the bat when I got married. I learned to cook Italian while at home just like my Nonna...priceless.

That was the 80s. Now my grandparents and parents are gone and I think about them often. I'm glad I wasn't sitting around in an expensive apartment with some dope of a boyfriend when I could have been learning to make cannoli. I was with 3 out of 4 of them when they passed. Nothing can ever replace being in their company and learning from all four of them.

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