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FNB Promoted inequity, comformity, and a false sense of reality


Although I believe that the intentions were good by the actors and directors of this show, this show just promoted the idea that the man is the leader, children should shut up and obey and not think for themselves, and that a woman's role is to best support her husband. The show reflects this and it comes out of an era that certainly reflected this mentality.

I have several faults with this show, which are in general faults with that era. First, this show illustrated women as best suited in a home as the maternal figure that supports the decisions of the paternal figure. The sexism is pretty much outright and in the open. Statements like, "Women are never so obvious as when they are trying to hide something." Margaret Anderson, clearly very intelligent, very much lived this way. The devoted mother and wife who was more like a side kick to the father than a unique individual even though she went to college. Bringing him his evening drink, softening him up when she wants something in order to get permission instead of thinking she is entitled to it because she carries her own weight. One is left to wonder if she went to college just to meet a husband. You can even see how the female children are submissive to the son a lot or there are pre-conceived expectations that a boy likes this and a girl likes that. Even the neighbors had lives where the man worked, woman at home. The fault in this is less an attack on a woman wanting to be a mother and wife, which is fine if this is what you want, but more that the show says this is what you are supposed to be and if you aren't something is different. And different is wrong.

The inability to talk about politics, global affairs, etc. is constant. I believe this was done not because those issues were never discussed then, but because of an effort to promote this false sense of persistent harmony all the time. People got depressed back then, got angry and yelled, beat each other, got drunk, had affairs, said ignorant things, and often lived in a house that wasn't always all peachy. Peachy sometimes, bad others the way life is and has always been. This show makes you think it was always peachy back then and if your life wasn't like that something was wrong with you.


The show conforms to an ideal that was inequitable and falsely happy. Gender roles, sexism, and inequality blended together in a way where everyone should be happy with it imbues a false reality to that time period. Many women wanted out of the home and to have a career, sought equity with their partner in all affairs, wanted a voice in political affairs, were keen to wear jeans and not always dresses, and wanted to go beyond just being a housewife. Heated discussions about politics occurred, men beat their wives (and often vice versa), and people were people with all their faults, not these strange creatures out of the Stepford Wives.

People who really like this show are, in my opinion, nostalgic for another time where they enjoyed these gender roles. However, for those that wanted to move beyond the stiff conformity and inequity of that era, this show is nothing more than propaganda.

And the father always wore a suit, everywhere. At dinner, when he relaxed. Who wears a suit all the time? Did he sleep in one? That’s just weird.

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To quote one of my favorite movie lines "Lighten up ,Francis" You are looking at this show from 21st century eyes. At that time most men had only been home form the war a few years, the country had just gotten over the war. People loved the idea that the typical American family was prosperous, kind to each other and had a moral compass. Do you prefer shows that are on today that portray family life in the worst way? I loved watching Father Knows Best even though their perfect prostestantism was very far from my tumoultuous Jewish life (we were upper middle class like them though) And by the way a lot of so called liberated women jump at the chance to become stay at home moms.

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Right on, teaand!!!

(<---From a *truly* liberated woman, too young for this show!)

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momohund: I don't know how many episodes you watched, but I happened to catch
a few episodes of this show this week (AntennaTV is showing them) and noticed
some interesting plotlines: In one, Jim buys Bud a scooter, but Margaret overrules his decision and makes him return it, even though he pleads with her
to change her mind. In another, Jim has a ticket to a football game and can only
take one child. Naturally I assumed, in keeping with the sexist view of sports in
that era, that he would take Bud. But instead he has his WIFE vote for which
child is most deserving (even little "Kitten" gets to campaign for the ticket);
Margaret picks Betty! Another episode has Kitten playing "house," which her
mother approves of, since it's such a girlish activity. Then Kathy wants to know why little boys don't play house, and Margaret tells her to ask her father,
who gets all flustered at the question. Kind of an odd exchange for a show that
is considered to be rigidly conforming to gender stereotypes and male-dominated.

teaandoranges: From what movie is "Lighten up, Francis"?


I'm not crying, you fool, I'm laughing!

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I dislike todays family-themed shows that represent fathers as foolish and inept and often alcoholic. 'Father Knows Best' had a dad that was far from perfect, but his heart was always in the right place, and he always did what he felt was the right thing to do. His wife and kids didn't just blindly obey him; they were indidviduals as well and often wuestrions his decisions.

"What do you want me to do, draw a picture? Spell it out!"

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Welcome to the 50's. Every show was like that.

BTW, it's "FKB", not FNB.

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"FNB Promoted inequity, comformity, and a false sense of reality "

Absolutely. What a wonderful show.


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Sure does, and im glad...I would have loved to live in the Andersons home.Mine was very similar...My Dad was the boss, and my Mother liked it that way, she is 92, and will tell you that herself....Great Show


You Have a Hard Lip, Herbert..

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It irks me when someone looks at a 50 yr old show thru todays eyes...BTW, I suspect in a lot of ways life was "peachy" back then..

You Have a Hard Lip, Herbert..

Better Living Thru Chemistry

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If you actually watch the show you would see that it's really not as bad as people think 1950s shows are. I was pleasantly surprised when I first started watching. There are even episodes where certain characters express their unhappiness that they're expected to live such perfectly planned out lives. It's actually more progressive than I expected a show from that time to be.


I was watching you, Mockingjay. And you were watching me

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And in the episode I'm watching now, there's a guy cooking a meal for the whole family (as opposed to a woman).


I was watching you, Mockingjay. And you were watching me

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and if the original poster saw the show the other day, where Betty is freaked out that she "can't" be an engineer -- well -- that would turn your eyes around too.

Yep -- it's a show from the 50's and depicts how we lived in America then. Just like Modern Family shows many lives, now! Both are great.

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People have stated the same things about The Donna Reed Show, it was the 50s, WW II was over, and America was one of the strongest and most prosperous nations at that time and it was portrayed on television.

Look at how the family sitcom changed in the late 60s and 70s.

People judge an old series by today's standards, I've noticed that people do this with the series Mad Men which is set in the 60s, and the producer does a good job at trying to capture the way people acted in the 60s, not in the year 2011.

I wasn't even a thought when this series was aired, and I only started catching episodes when it made it's way to the retro channels.

I don't know, there is something to be said for things in a simpler less complicated world.

We assume that we exist, and there is reality, and that the matter of which we are made is real.

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IT WAS THE 50'S!!!!

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The OP is in good company: Billy Gray (Bud) has spoken against the show often, making many of the same observations.

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Count me among those who expected Father Knows Best to be sexist (reflecting common attitudes of those post-war years when women were encouraged to go back to the home and not provide job competition for returning soldiers) - but when I finally caught an episode of the show, I was pleasantly surprised. Seemed like a loving depiction of a marriage, without treating the wife as inferior and the husband as condescending. In fact, Robert Young's character was portrayed as (and admitted he was) wrong in this particular ep, instead of lording over his family like some infallible patriarch. Made me wonder if the title of the series was meant to be ironic, actually.

But I appreciated that he *wasn't* portrayed as cartoonishly idiotic like so many sitcom fathers these days. Speaking of cartoonishly idiotic... I Love Lucy always annoyed me with the whole childish-wife-chastised-by-hubby thing. But nobody seems to mind and that show's still revered. Go figure.

I don't know what's up with Billy Gray, but maybe drugs have affected his memory. :P Or he wants to disown the show because of it's un-cool reputation in these cynical times. 'Cause he's Mr. Cool Motorcycle Racer.

Anyway, Billy didn't make the best impression in his interview on "The Girl Next Door" DVD. He basically ogled June Haver and said her body (and how well she wears clothes) was the real star of the movie. Pretty unfair assessment (guess he makes a habit of unfair assessments) of a charming, talented actress who displays some truly impressive dancing skill there. Billy came across as... sexist.

Plus he dissed all musicals and dancing in general. So clearly the man has issues with how "cool" or "corny" something is perceived to be. Not to mention outdated macho values, showing contempt for anything "too girly". Father Knows Best seems too progressive to be appreciated by that kind of guy. :P

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The title was supposed to be 'Father Knows Best?' but the studio or the sponsors wanted to drop it Robert Young fought for the '?' to stay but I guess whatever the studio execs/sponsors say at that time goes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk5lgZBrGWM

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