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Important question for fans concerning Britain!


Hi everyone! I am collecting some research via IMDb for my dissertation, a large proportion of my grade for my final year of study at university. I need as many responses to the following question to help me conduct my research into how film can contribute to construction of a country’s national identity (I am interested in British film).
So here is the question...

How does The Dam Busters portray Britain and the British?

Please answer with anything that comes to mind, e.g. a positive or negative portrayal, whether you identify with the film or characters, whether it is an authentic representation, comparison to other films views of Britain etc

Please note, by responding to this post you are agreeing to the possibility of your view being published in my paper, so if you don’t want this don’t reply! I will be using screen names to label quotes in my paper, however if you wish to be recorded as something else (e.g. anonymous subject 1) please let me know. Also after the completion of my paper, I can offer a copy to be emailed to anyone who replies if they wish to see their quote in context of my project, just ask.

Thank you to all IMDb users that read this!
Helen, University of Newcastle student, England.

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It would be easy to condemn the film as a typical 'stiff upper lip' British war film, chock full of 'good chaps' doing heroic things and winning the war. I have often heard such condemnations, particularly in more modern times when the flavour of war films has moved more toward the horrors of war.
This is unfair. I was 8 years old when the film was made. Rationing was still lingering and the country was finally moving out of the bleak aftermath of World War 2. My fathers war veteran generation made up much of the population, the war still being fresh in the minds of the public at large.
In such a time when many might still have been wondering where the 'home fit for heroes' had disappeared to for yet a second time (aka the period following World War 1), a war film depicting the outstanding bravery of a real event is going to be much more acceptable than one portraying the grim realities of war.
In later years people would question whether or not the losses were worth the result, even whether we should be putting praise on the whole concept of bombing from the air, but at that time when cities were still filled with rubble filled bomb sites, such questions would have been out of place.
The 'Dam Busters' have become legend, and legend doesn't always fit well with actual history, but World War 2 was that piece of history where the human race was both at it's worst, and it's best … a strange irony that I think fits in well into the British character.

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Thanks for your response rclay-1!

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I think it portrays Britain and the British in a very postive light. The "can do " attitude of the men who took part in the raid is typified by Richard Todd's (RIP)portrayal of Gibson.

It's a film I grew up with as a young boy, and it brings back a lot of nostalgia for me. Not because I went through the war, but it reminds me of Sunday afternoons on the TV when it was frequently shown. Of course it's a propaganda piece and the real raid wasn't as effective as they make it out in the film. But it's still a great watch. The dams raid is only half the story. It's also about Barnes Wallis who keeps going in the face of adversity to get the bombs developed. That is almost as inspiring as the attack itself.

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room. (Dr Strangelove)

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Eccentric, dogged, fair and courageous.

The objective of all Brit-made war movies until Foyle's War came along.

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I just saw DAM BUSTERS for the first time today, on TURNER CLASSIC MOVIES, and it made me very, very proud.

I'm a Yank, of Canadian/ British heritage, and have always been a student of history,

When I was in London, in 1990, I attended Remembrance Day ceremonies commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Battle of Britain. I saw the flyover, and was astonished when an older woman told me about the flyers..she said they were just "babies", and usually well under 25. Films like THE DAM BUSTERS, BATTLE OF BRITAIN and REACH FOR THE SKY do indeed represent the spirit and character of the British people...In SPADES!

One final thing, a British friend and I once talked about the Revolutionary War, and she expressed amazement that the United States could have won.

My reply was proud and direct: "Most of us at the time were BRITISH, or we couldn't have.."

"...America is the land of my Birth, but Britain is the home of my Heart..."

Good Luck with your report.
Joy

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Thanks to everybody for their responses, my dissertation is now complete but it wouldn't have been possible without your help!

Many thanks
Helen :)

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We're all glad to be of help I'm sure.

I'd just like to add this rider:
My Dad was a World War 2 Veteran, an infantryman who went through North Africa, Sicily and Italy before being wounded out. I once asked him about the allied bombing campaign on Germany, in particular the mass bombing of cities, which was carried out to a degree far in excess of what the Luftwaffe did to Britain.

His reply (and bearing in mind my Dad was a left leaning socialist in post war years, had moved away from his militaristic youth):

'They started it.'

Difficult one to argue against !

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