MovieChat Forums > White Christmas (1954) Discussion > They dont make movies like this any more

They dont make movies like this any more


I happened to catch this on AMC last night and really enjoyed it. I'm 29 and usually don't get into a lot of older films/musicals like this but found myself suprised how entertained I was. It's a shame that hollywood can't make movies like this anymore, it was such a feel good christmas time movie that isn't overdone this time of year like It's a Wonderful Life, Mircale on 34th street, ect. I wish that light-harted movies such as this where still in popular culture.

reply

Trouble is there is no one around today able to make movies like this-no one with the stature and ability of Bing Crosby or Danny Kaye.

reply

I truthfully have never been a lover of musicals and tend to avoid them, but this movie once I started watching it I couldn't stop.

I especially enjoyed Vera-Allen's dancing which was great! But the songs and the story were entertaining as well.

Yes, they certainly don't make movies like this any more.

reply

I don't know if it's more a problem of no one being around with the talent or that no one develops their talents in this way any more since the general public doesn't buy this type of entertainment any more. And it's much cheaper to produce movies without all that shtick, costumes, cast, etc. than to simply blow up a few cars and planes, shoot 20 people and drop a few "F" bombs. Performers with these attributes probably gravitate to the stage rather than film.

reply

I agree. They don't make movies like this any more. I don't expect it.
What is wonderful is that these great films will always be around for younger generations to appriciate and enjoy.


Face it girls.... I'm older and I have more insurance!

reply

I think if they made a movie like this today it would flop. I love this kind of thing but most young people wouldnt go see it.

reply

A movie like this today would flop because today's morally bankrupt populace only want graphic sex and violence.

reply

Say's someone who has never been entertained by Theater.

reply

lol ^,^

reply

And even if we come to them later in life, appreciation for the hard work and talent before us remains all the same.

reply

I'm 25 and have adored this movie sense I was kid. I don't think people would go and see something like this in movies.

reply

It's definitely a great film. I'm 37 and have enjoyed this since I was a kid. I think it's a shame that great uplifting films can't be made like this anymore.

Conquer your fear, and I promise you, you will conquer death.

reply

Its Christmas 2014 and They still don't make movies like this anymore!

reply

They could make this type of movie for TV,around the holidays.

reply

They did make Chicago a few years back. Granted it wasn't Irving Berlin tunes nor did it have Bing Crosby in it......but, Catherine Zeta-jones and Richard Gere were pretty good, not to mention Queen Latifah...excellent!
Problem is, just like previous posters have mentioned, unfortunately times have changed, morals have changed and the young people of today (in general) ,are very quickly bored. Movie producers do not gear movies to the baby boomers any more. Just to the younger crowd. It is a shame though....you should hear Hugh Jackman in the stage version of Oklahoma, he's awesome. Ahhhh well, the good old days.

reply

Nostalgia has been around for millenia. You would think we'd know better by now, but eventually all of us will end up reminiscing about the "good ol' days". I'm 33, so I think my time is coming, too.

For now, I still hold the idea that the next year is always better than the last. Young people will always be more evolved than the elderly, in general terms. Obviously, there also will always be stupid young people and brilliant seniors.

I love old movies and I love musicals. Some of my favorites (The Sound of Music, Singin' in the Rain) were made some 50 years ago. But I don't share the view expressed by many here. Cinema in 2016 is better than it has ever been, and next year it will be even better. Musicals are still being made, even though we haven't had a great one for a long time. But if you like the genre like I do, you can still have some fun watching Chicago, Les Mis, Mamma Mia! or Across the Universe.

Every year we have the chance to see dozens of movies with mind-bending storylines, amazing photography, innovative editing, and an overall level of professionalism in all technical functions that hardly any other industry can get. Back in the days were "everything was better", according to folks commenting here, you'd only get these "life-changing" cinematic marvels once every 5 years or so.

Back in the "good" old days, one quarter of a million citizens died in two days, on a cowardly act of war in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. You had butchers like Hitler, Stalin and Hirohito walking about - and I'm only mentioning the ones you'll agree. A president and his brother got shot on live TV. A crook and his predecessors ruined a generation with stupid proxy wars in Vietnam and Cambodia. Famine, poverty and disease wiped out millions all over the planet, often under the cynical eyes of corrupt governments, corporations and religions. Crosby himself lost two children to suicide, and although I don't blame him for this, one would have to at least question this one-sided, overly-optimistic view you guys hold about the past.

Granted. When you think about Twilight and Transformers, it makes you wonder if any good Cinema still exists. Just look for Sundance or Cannes. Movies like Birdman, Gravity, or even some from Tarantino could never have been done back in 1950, not only because of technology, but because our brains evolved.

I'm nostalgic too, though. I grew up in the 80s, and until recently I thought some of the best movies ever made were done in that decade. I still think some great movies were made back then, but those are not the same movies I loved when I was a child. I have been rewatching some of these movies, the ones that came out when I was growing up and fascinated me, and it makes me quite embarrassed of my failure to realize sooner how bad they were.

The world changes and that's a great thing. Misogyny, homophobia, racism, sexism, hardcore nationalism and religious bigotry are not OK anymore. Indiana Jones and James Bond might have been heroes to us when we were growing up, but today they'd be considered jerks, and rightly so.

Feeling good about our own past is not a crime, and we should tell younger generations about that part of human history that we've lived on. It's OK to be nostalgic, but some people here were saying something in the lines of "these good-for-nothing milennials do not have the great morals of the 'best' generation". It may be true, but at least now women can vote and black people can sit wherever they want on buses, or anywhere else for that matter.

Judging today's society by the standards set by Michael Bay and Fast & Furious is as unfair as judging past generations by the acts of Hitler. Instead, if we want to keep it positive, we should judge this generation by Iñarritu, Cuarón, Linklater, Nolan, Tarantino, etc. Conversely, we should judge past generations by some of the work of Michael Curtiz, Victor Fleming, Robert Wise, Hitchcock and Einstein. Not so much Chaplin, Polanski, Crosby or Disney, who were all great artists, but history has shown they were not perfect.

I just wish you guys wouldn't forget about that.

__________________
Let's all agree to keep signatures apart from text body?

reply

I must admit.....absolutely well spoken Sir. Obviously, I was not talking about a person as well-spoken and intelligent as yourself, but you would be in the 10% category, not the other 90%.

reply

What President was shot on live TV? If you're thinking of JFK, the only clear footage of the actual assassination is the Zapruder film which was a home movie, and was only first seen by the public in the form of sequential frames printed in LIFE magazine. The news of JFK's death was announced on live television, as one would expect of such an event, but he wasn't shot on live TV.

Trust me, your message was not lost in such details, and I agree that no era was or ever will be perfect. I may not agree with all of your interpretations of historical events, but do believe that anything should be seen in the context of its time in addition to being viewed through the filter of our modern preconceptions.

As a well expressed counterpoint to what could be called "nostalgia," I offer this blog post putting "White Christmas" into its proper chronological context as well as some pithy observations relative to its place in cinema history:

http://www.movietone-news.com/2008/12/imagine-being-lucky-enough-to-take_8051.html


reply

Culture was far better back then - more talent and no PC killjoys spoiling everything.

reply

I don't think you could find enough talent to make a film like this today. Finding four leads who could sing and/or dance like these four would be impossible.

There were only a handful of actresses who could have done the dance numbers Vera-Ellen made look so effortless. And I would be surprised if you could find any today that pull it off.

As for the singing, most of today's singers would scream every number and think it was classy.

The budget for the costumes must have been huge. Finding someone to do costumes this classy would be difficult today.

I think about some of the numbers from Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (the axes scene) that could never be duplicated today.

reply

I agree, I watched it as well as a part of going through this list of Christmas films. http://blog.cinemaparadiso.co.uk/13-films-to-watch-this-christmas/

So glad I found it, it's cheesy but in a very good way. And also, Holiday Inn!

reply