dreadful


Just saw this screened in NYC. Was really looking forward to it as I love french, foreign & art-house films but I HATED this movie. It was so cold, unemotional and grating, and worst of all - boring. Really felt like a feature length dream sequence with no rhyme or reason.

In contrast I saw Truffaut's The Mother & The Whore earlier this year, and even though nothing really happens in that movie I was completely engaged and moved.

Luckily Contempt is coming to Film Forum soon though.

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I saw this today in NYC too!

I think the "cold, unemotional and grating" aspects of the film are intended; indeed, they might seem boring, but they also serve as being suspenseful. This might sound pretentious, but I also think it is a comment on bourgeois society and its values. The guests of the hotel go there every year, so they are as much "fixtures" of the hotel as the furnishings: cold marble, precisely manicured gardens (without trees, flowers and grass, only hard gravel), over-polished gilt decoration, silent corridors, etc. The setting is so flawless as to be sinister, especially when populated by the particular guests that frequent the place. The setting, the guests, that creepy organ music, the sparse 'nouvelle-roman" style of writing (thank you, Alain Robbe-Grillet) all combine to prevent emotion or warmth. All of these elements, however, are so harmonious with each other, and that -- along with the open-ended plot -- is why the movie is so enigmatic and compelling.

I'd like to see it again.


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I saw this movie last night in Houston (at the Museum of Fine Arts). I saw it one time before, in the late 60's. All I remembered was the opening 20 minutes or so; i.e. the shots panning through the hotel corridors, and the repeating dialog. I thoroughly enjoyed it this time around, and wouldn't mind seeing it again. Hopefully, I won't have to wait 40 years for that.

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Truffaut had nothing to do with "The Mother and the Whore." See Jean Eustache.

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Haven't seen this movie in years, and it was a refreshing experience to see it again, anew, although the print wasn't great.

If you really hated this movie, you'll probably hate Godard's Le Mepris (Contempt), don't bother.

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Admittedly, this film isn't for every taste. For me, however, the experience of seeing it again today was a completely different from yours, OP.

I didn't find it boring at all; rather, I found it intriguing, eerie, elegant and very stylized. Resnais manages to capture Robbe Grillet's words and put them on the screen, all so beautifully photographed by Vierny. And, I didn't think that "nothing happened" in this film. Resnais and Robbe Grillet tell a story about an affair between two people, playing with the narrative and taking it out of the conventional temporal and spatial norms.

Fascinating. 9/10




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I just saw this film in a class in college and loved it. I've already watched it twice since then and can't get over how good it is. I have to disagree with "dreadful", even though I know this movie isn't for everyone.

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mrtranny (smirk),

Obviously, the movie wasn't designed to entertain. You should have picked up on that after about 20 minutes. It is however a fascinating batch of evidence that requires interpretation.

Lucky for you, every other movie ever made agrees with you, that a movie's primary reason for existence is to entertain. Have you considered confining yourself to every other movie ever made, and leaving 'Marienbad' to people who enjoy interpreting film?

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Dreadful? Or wonderful? Or both (is this even possible)? I don't know, I don't care, I just know I dig it. And 'dig' seems somehow the right word, b/c I'm not sure I love it or even like it (let alone begin to understand it, thank goodness--if there's anything to understand); but I dig it.

"Doesn't that make you misty? Chalk up another victory for the Human spirit!"

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What a pompous reply to some poor sap who probably prefers 'Spiderman' or similar Hollywood garbage to any decent movie which makes you think on some of the important things in life..

But Marienbad is entertaining. It kept you enthralled and me as well - I for one think it a great movie. That's entertainment.

Half the people on this thread appear to have seen the film in 'film' school, which is all very well,as it means that they are being exposed to something more than the usual Hollywood carp.

But you must allow other opinions to be put - the fact that you are intellectual/intelligent/empathetic/filmwise enough to enjoy this film does not give you the right to talk about'interpretation' as though you have the interpretive tools and they dont. We all do, but they for various reasons cant exercise them.

As an opera lover (hence my nic) I am totally opposed to elitist views of the Arts such as you are demonstating. In any other forum because of our tastes we'd be bosum buddies!

B

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I found this film to be spell-binding and truly unique. It was a privilege to be entranced in a way that too few films can.


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"The Mother And The Whore' was NOT directed by Truffaut. It was written and directed by Jean Eustache.

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This is the second film I absolutely couldn't take --for the first half. Then something happend and I become infatuated by it. I can't remember what it was, It's been years since I've seen it, but can't wait to see it again.

The first film was The Science of Sleep.

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It's the most remarkable movie I've seen in years. It managed to insinuate itself, wraithlike, into my subconscious, while impressing me with its masterful photography, expert control of mood, and incredibly nightmarish (dreamy?) atmosphere. It's fantastic.

Of course, there is a but. I wasn't particularly satisfied with the ending. I guess I wanted something definitively intense to happen. I wanted some sort of a violent act, some brief intrusion of uncompromised reality, to justify and explain the peculiar sense of dread so painstakingly constructed throughout the film. I knew such an expectation was unrealistic, but I was ever so slightly disappointed when they simply walked away at the end.

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It's an absolute masterpiece and possibly the greatest child of the French New Wave (and that's saying something!)

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