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Has how the movie is perceived changed over the years?


I guess this movie caused a bit of a stir in it's time, but it was hard to relate.

I think it's that interracial dating has become so mainstream it's hard to relate to it being such a big deal, even though at the time I know it would have been.

I've known a lot of interracial couples (including my best friend and her husband and all 3 of my brothers and their wives) and I've never heard a fuss made over it at all, or of it even being an issue or factor to consider.

Don't get me wrong please. I wouldn't be so stupid as to say that racism is dead, or that an interracial couple would be accepted everywhere. Of course not. But I think thats becoming more and more the exception than the norm.

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This movie was seen as a bold statement, as courageous for Hollywood. Isn't that absurd? But at the time, it was hailed as courageous. It wasn't, in any way, shape, or form but media covering Hollywood swallowed it hook, line, and sinker whatever the studios fed them, regardless of the rottenness of the product. (This is pretty much true today, look at ET, CNN, other show biz coverage, fawning over celebrities. Bigger business now than ever before.) Everything about GWCTD is awful. Kathryn Herrod who played the milky white daughter has stated she thought her role was ridiculous, just a clueless, brainless ditz, like most of the movie. Sidney Potier was made to look like a jerk, a distinguished doctor, yet cowering in front of his parents. It's idiotic. Recall the scene when a delivery boy comes to the back door, he and the maid or whatever she is, start dancing. That's Hollywood's idea of being hip. What an embarassment all around!! This laughable movie should be revisted. Have Quentin Tarantino direct it. He's got just the right take on race.

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This movie was already recently remade as Guess Who (2005) and with the races/genders of the two people in love swapped (the black woman is taking her white boyfriend to see her parents, who don't like the idea of them getting married.)

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At the time the film would be seen as bold, controversial and ahead of its time.

Its that man again!!

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Real 4th grade anecdote from the year 1968-69:
I attended public school in a farming community outside of a very intellectually liberal city. (My Dad had graduated from the university in that city and considered himself a liberal.) There were no non-anglos in my grade and likely not in my school or the whole town, perhaps.

My classroom teacher, seemingly out of the blue, started talking about why whites and blacks should not intermarry. It was OK to date, she said, but not marriage, her reason being one generation of kids could come out white and the next black, even if the parents were white. I did not understand the relevance of this discussion and had forgotten about it until seeing this movie recently. The teacher was probably around 60 years old. (And who knows where she got her genetics from?)

I suppose my kids, raised in another part of the country in a community with many different races and cultures, were to time travel back to my childhood, they might think society rather odd . . .

Because the world has changed, I definitely believe it affects how the movie is perceived. Bpth socially and artistically: Movie-goers are much more sophisticated about the dramatic and/or technical elements they expect from a movie than they were 40-50 years ago and I think today's society is more socially savvy. I am really impressed with how well history and human issues have been taught to my kids in the local public schools, this is from a parent who started a life-long love of learning history and other topics from my school years.

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To me, the marriage seems a little impulsive. What could Poitier's character possibly see in Joey's childish and ignorant character. It totally undercuts the significance of their union. Surely, African Americans today are wondering why he's marrying "beneath" himself, while the film--controversial for its time--seems to suggest that he's marrying "above" himself and that the only way to "equalize" their union is by focusing so much on his accomplishments and giving no attention to hers.

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Prismark10 wrote: "At the time the film would be seen as bold, controversial and ahead of its time."

Absolutely right!!!! Congratulations to the producer and director as well as the cast for taking in on.

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I saw the film with my parents near the end of '67. I was 11 and interracial relationships were pretty much science fiction to me. (I'm black and decidedly middle-aged now). I DO remember my old man shaking his finger at me when we got home and saying something like "If you EVER talk to me like the guy talked to his father, I'll break you in half, I don't care how old you might be."

May I bone your kipper, Mademoiselle?

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not that I'm racist or against interracial dating but this movie imo bore the hell out of me

Noir Man

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Attitudes have definitely changed since then. It was illegal before the case of Virginia vs. Loving in many states. According to a black friend of mine who lived in Europe a while during those days, they would have had a problem there, also. But even now, where I live in the South, most white people would not be happy about their daughter marrying a white man, and they look askance at mixed couples.

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Sure, inter-racial dating is more common now, but that doesn't mean that absolutely everyone is OK with it. I happen to have a (platonic) female friend who is mixed-race (half-black), and I (as a white person) have had issues in visiting her apartment building. Sometimes the security guy on duty, who happens to be black, will refuse to acknowledge me when I show up at the desk. I end up having to call my friend on the telephone to tell her I am there, because the security guy is clearly miffed at my presence there. It's hard to believe that if I were a black person, I would get the same poor treatment, at least in this situation.

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I mentioned this in another thread, but to me the key moment in the film is when John tells his father "You see yourself as a colored man, while I see myself as a man." I doubt many young black men, even professionals, feel that way today, we have actually regressed at times.


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