He goes from room to room and kills one at a time, but in the flashback everyone is just lying there with their eyes closed when they get shot. Like you wouldn't wake up from shotgun blasts in the middle of the night. Seems like it would have been more realistic if people were at least running and cowering after the first shot.
shareMaybe they did wake up after he killed his parents. It wouldn't be that hard to believe that frightened children, if told at gun point to get back in bed and lie face down, would not do so. Those kids may have been paralyzed with fear.
shareWell, although it may be fake, there has been a picture circulating around the web, that looked like there was a spirit of a young boy peering from his bedroom door. This was taken when paranormal investigators were in the house after the Lutz's fled. If there is a connection and the picture is real, then maybe, just maybe what alomba1328 said is right. The children got out of bed to see what the noise was and encountered their older brother who told them to get back in bed. Maybe that was what the spirit was doing...reliving what happened that night. It is quite spooky in the cold light of day.
shareWell, although it may be fake, there has been a picture circulating around the web, that looked like there was a spirit of a young boy peering from his bedroom door. This was taken when paranormal investigators were in the house after the Lutz's fled. If there is a connection and the picture is real, then maybe, just maybe what alomba1328 said is right. The children got out of bed to see what the noise was and encountered their older brother who told them to get back in bed. Maybe that was what the spirit was doing...reliving what happened that night. It is quite spooky in the cold light of day.
shareRemember that Ron DeFeo has never taken full ownership of his actions, and has consistently changed his story multiple times, all of which cast him in a more favorable light. He will never admit that he shot those kids in cold blood as they cowered awake in fear, perhaps crying and begging for their lives. I think they woke up and saw something. He then ordered them back to their rooms and made them lie face down before eliminating them as witnesses.
shareThat picture is and is not a fake. There's an article floating around about it and it's got an interesting story to it.
Essentially, it's not a fake because it wasn't intentionally taken, however it's been used as a fake because the Warrens' had to of known who it was and didn't say it, pretending it was a ghost.
The person in the photo is one of the researchers that was there that night. He had gone upstairs to get some equipment and was adjusting it when they came upstairs taking photos. They didn't see him and he didn't think anything of it. The glowing eyes are actually the reflection of the camera flash off his glasses. When you look at the other photos of everyone there that night, you can clearly see it's the same researcher.
However, when the photo was released, he and several others didn't say anything. The reason was one of the psychics there (Not one of the Warrens') was a friend of his and she had already gone into this big story about how the photo was of one of the dead DeFao children. He didn't want to embarrass her so he kept quite until after her death.
The Warrens' though would have had to have recognized it as him and went ahead lying about it anyway.
According to the documentary, 'The Real Amityville Horror' the photo was one of many that was taken, and the ghost child appeared in one snapshot. It was reported in the documentary that no one was upstairs when the photo was taken.
Also, none of the investigative shows or documentaries that I've seen accuse the Warrens of being liars. Lawdog has appeared on various threads with some sort of strange ax to grind regarding the paranormal and most certainly the Warrens.
Off the wagon again Kurt?
shareI just watched a documentary on the Defeos & the murders. Ronnie once claimed she and he were only going to kill the father, but she took the initiative to kill them all. In the documentary, there was mention that Louise Defeo's father, who was involved with the mob, employed Ronald Sr to manage his Buick dealership & was paying the mortgage on their Amityville home. Eventually Ron Sr. Was
stealing from the business. According to Butch, this led to the mob killing his family, or that's what Butch told police at first. We all know Ronnie shot them all, but it is possible what butch said about his grandfather's mob connections were true about him financing the house, not about the killings. Bitch also claimed when he Dawn shot Ron Sr, the mother was shot first, then the father got out of bed and charged towards Butch and Dawn & was shot, but Butch & Dawn put him back in bed face down. Supposedly, there was a $200,000. life insurance policy Butch stood to inherit from their deaths. That's the only motive I can figure. There are so many accounts as to what happened, it's almost like trying to figure out who killed Kennedy.
OK...I watched the same DeFeo documentary you did, and your recall of the information is shady at best. Ronnie's sister may or may not have participated in the killings. We'll never know. Ronnie told numerous stories about what happened including the 'devil made me do it' defense, and the only account that comes close to the truth is that Ronnie at least killed one family member for sure and maybe all. So he is a murderer. Lets remember where the gun was found, ok? Also, Ron Sr. was found face down on the bed. There was no proof that ANY family member moved from their beds, and were sound asleep when killed.
"Dawn put him back in bed face down" Do you have any conception of how big and heavy Ron Sr. was?
"Supposedly, there was a $200,000. life insurance policy Butch stood to inherit from their deaths. That's the only motive I can figure."
Oh wow. Accept that Ron Sr. beat the crap out of Ronnie. Hello? Motive anyone?
If money was the motive, then why kill the entire family.???? Why not just kill the father since he was the most abusive. If he kills the entire family, he's the only beneficiary.
shareLet's not forget he was high on coke, heroin, weed, LCD, and was drunk.
It's kind of surprising he didn't go on to shoot everyone in the neighborhood.
Ronald was just a psycho, that's why he did it. Maybe his dad beat him, maybe he had mental health issues, whatever. At the end of the day he was just crazy. He did it and a mountain of evidence showed he did it.
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shareIts been a while since I've read this, so I may not be 100% correct, but the "devil made me do it" claims didn't come about until after the Lutz's fled the house. Essentially their claims gave Defeo's lawyer another straw to grasp.
shareThey were all drugged. Except Dawn. It was planned by her, Ron and one of his friends. The plan was to kill his parents, that's it. Dawn killed all of them, Ron lost it and killed her.
I can't remember the site, but that's the story I ire that he gave an investigator .
http://www.amityvillemurders.com/
it's been a long while since I've read it, but it's a great read. I read through each section one night , there's much most don't know.
The problem with that is none had anything show up in their autopsy toxicology reports.
Ron also claimed the mob did it (The Godfather films were huge at the time) and he heard voices. (The Exorcist was big at the time) So nothing Ron says can be taken seriously.
What we know is that Ron himself was into hardcore drugs and had violent arguments with his father, which included his father pointing the very same gun Ron would use in the murders at him.
That alone was enough motivation for Ron.
We may never know the full truth of what happened that night. The parents were murdered first which means the kids may have stayed in their beds frozen with fear. I believe he shot the boys next and then the sisters. Allison DeFeo was shot in the face which leads us to believe she lifted her head and was awake at the time of the shooting.
-Di
No one knows why. It's an unsolved mystery. I love how uneducated goobers think they know the answer.
sharegood question
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