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Confused about Moody and the others


When watching the first scenes I get the impression that while being a bully, Moody is also popular with the girls. They try to save him a seat, want to go out with him etc. (they do not seem scared of/resentful of him). At the same time (at least initially) they are not very interested in Clifford.

What I don't get is why do they suddenly turn against Moody after Clifford sprays him and his gang with ketchup and Linderman appears out of nowhere to protect Clifford? The girls never seemed bothered by Moody's bullying of other students, it's odd that they suddenly came to the realization that his actions were wrong.





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Perhaps the girls and other students did not have a first hand idea of how mean and bully-ish Moody was and finally saw the light when Clifford stood up to him (with his bodyguard close by of course...lol)

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The blonde girl that Moody was hitting on didnt seem interested in him. When he asked about her hair, she made that "K-Mart" remark and turned away from him.

Shelly was the only one that seemed to have a crush on him (she was the one that saved him the seat, then he sat somewhere else.)

Then later he humiliated her in that diner (or whtever it was) and that was when she turned against him.

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@jrs8, it's possible, I doubt that Moody bullied any of the girls and I would assume that he warned the guys not to blabber too much about his extortion scheme.


@StormAngel, good points, I wasn't sure how to interpret the blonde girl's remarks - she may have said it half-jokingly (or was indeed a bit annoyed). When Moody enters the classroom, most of the students start to cheer him on, but I am not sure whether most of the girls joined in.

And you are right about Shelley, Moody was rather mean to her when talking about going to the movies.

In addition, it seems as if most people admire the powerful - when it is revealed that Moody is scared of Linderman/that he is no longer the one in control, his all-powerful image starts to fade.

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What I think is that while Moody was a bully, he was still charming and appealing to the majority of his classmates. Most of the students saw him as a 'class clown' who could even get the upper-hand on the teachers and always had a funny remark (eg. when he gave the reason for Linderman's absence by stating 'Maybe he's climbing the Empire State Building'). He was only a bully to the short and geeky kids while the other kids thought he was cool.

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I suppose you would have found it charming had he asked you for your lunch money and you didn't oblige. Then you would have been struck with awe, when he used your head as a strike zone for wet toilet paper, while his hench men chuckled at you. Of course, Moody, being a swell guy, just did it all for fun. His control was so uncanningly good that he could just paint the outside corners of a Miser's face. Moody got off cheap with a broken nose. He deserved a royal flush! But, I'll agree Matt Dillon was great as Moody.

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Maybe you misunderstood my comment. I was never implying that Moody was a 'swell, fun guy'. I just said that hed was popular and charming to the majority of his classmates who weren't subjected to his 'personal protection'. Sure he was a mean-spirited bully, though he did have his followers and came across as a class clown who brought humour to an otherwise boring school day. I knew a few bullies who were exactly like that. They always got picked first for teams, hung around with all the 'popular' kids, and had the teachers turing a blind eye to all their antics.

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Yeah sorry Jay, I did misunderstand your point. I apologize. I think your last line about him only being a bully to the short and geeky kids threw me a curve or whatever. Anyway, I was short once, not geeky, but I know what you mean. I remember a few dudes who got away with all kinds of stuff too, mostly minor and sometimes mean spirited like Moody. But to my recollection none of them ever tried to extort lunch money. Back then teachers could still grab you by the ears and give you very nasty dententions. I got in trouble one time for not admitting my role in a clay fight incident. All I had to do was raise my hand and I would have been in the clear. In case you're wondering, they were small bits of clay. Nothing close to wet toilet paper!

Have a great day!

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It was a different time when I went to school (80's-early 90's). The school system had no 'hands off' policy like they do today. There was even an unofficial 'fight area' where kids would settle things. I don't remember any kid who extorted lunch money, though there were a few guys like Moody who degraded others by putting hateful graffiti on someones locker, poured the contents of an entire pepper shaker on a classmates' sandwich, throw a poor kids' change of clothes in the shower following gym class and many more examples. Fear prevented kids from doing anything in retaliation, and there was little discussion about bullying.

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I don't think the cute blonde girl ever turned against Moody - or if she did she went back. At the end in the scene in the park, she's hanging out with Moody and his crowd.

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I didn't say the blonde girl turned against him. Just that she did not seem interested in him.

It was Shelly (with the frizzy hair) who liked him then turned against him after he made a fool out of her.

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Oh sorry I was really meaning to reply to the OP's question - you had mentioned the blonde and I think that's why I put the reply there.

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she goes against him/ stops having a crush on him cause he asks if she wants to go to the movies and she says yeah! all excitedly but says something like well have fun than basically making fun of the fact she has a crush on him and she realizes hes a jerk, the blonde girl doesn't like him.

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I don't think he would have bullied the girls too much. What would be the point in that? He had the whole Alpha Male thing going so he could be powerful, especially in front of the girls. Sure he was mean in that instance to that one girl, but he was trying to think of a funny way to brush her off. It was mean but I'm guessing if she hadn't said anything to Moody he would have ignored her. I also agree that he would need a certain amount of male "friends" to be as popular as he was. I also think he just targeted the kids that would be labeled "nerdy" anyways.

Peace is not the absence of affliction, but the presence of God. ~Author Unknown

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@Isnam, well argued, I agree!

Also, there was at one point a breakdown in the bullies' relationship. Hightower, Koontz and Dubrow refused to fight Linderman when Moody tried to "rally the troops" and encourage them to confront Ricky (they weren't that loyal to him). The other three bullies "left him hanging". However, it seems as if they were rather quick to mend fences and Moody was still the clique's informal leader when they started to bully Linderman (once Mike entered the stage).

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Shelly and Moody fell in love with each other in 1997.....

In another movie "In & Out"

:D

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Wow! That's so true! "Is EVERYBODY GAY?!"

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Only Shelly saved him a seat. She had a bit of a crush on him but none of the other girls seemed that impressed. The blonde who tells him she got her beautiful hair "from K-mart" certainly didn't seem to like him.

I do not have attention deficit disor...Ooh, look at the bunny!

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You have to remember that this was the late '70s and there was not much (if any) public awareness about bullying. Schools and parents had a more "let kids be kids mentality).

Thus if you think about it, Moody was a bully/punk to the smaller defenseless kids and a rake/rogue to the girls. Moody was probably making 5-10 dollars a day from his extortion racket which adds up quickly. This probably allowed him to spend freely at malt shop above and beyond the abilities of normal classmates. So perhaps many girls turned a blind eye because he could afford to do different things.

Just a thought.

In my mind's eye, two possible futures happened to Moody.

He continues on his path and he becomes a true punk who continues to engage in extortion rackets and petty crime. He marries, is a serial cheater, engages in domestic violence and escalates in criminal activity. Eventually he moves to higher forms of crimes such as distribution of narcotics and eventually either gets arrested or targeted by hard guys. His crew abandons him (again) and winds up doing prison time or offed by the hard guys.

The second and more likely scenario is that his beating at the hands of Clifford changes his life because his tuff guy rep is lost and he loses his crew. Without money, he loses his cache with the girls. He probably drops out of school and works a manual labor job such as plumber or electrician. Gets married, has a coupla kids and then one day reconnects with Clifford on Facebook. Clifford is a successful executive or professional. Moody will ask for forgiveness and his words will be tinged with regret.

Since Clifford won the fight, he will forgive Moody and then Moody will ask Clifford about Linderman so he can do the same. You vae to remember these events occurred 34 years ago and people do mature and seek absolution.

Moody would then seek out Carson and send him several gift certificates to his favorite fast food resturant "a year's worth of lunches."

The reason I say all of this is because I attended a sermon in which the pastor told an amazing story of bullying in which the bully was as bad if not worse than Moody. Eventually one victim retaliated and a fight ensued and the bully got his a** handed to him.

The pastor then revealed it was HE who was the bully and it opened his eyes and changed his life and lead him down the path of spiritual redemption. He had reached out to his former victims and had received their forgiveness.

So things do work out... it just takes decades.


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You have to remember that this was the late '70s and there was not much (if any) public awareness about bullying. Schools and parents had a more "let kids be kids mentality).


I can't agree with that. There was plenty of awareness about bullying, but I think most people accepted it as something that happens in life. Look at older movies, and you'll see lots of bullies shown. "A Christmas Story" especially focuses on every-school-day bullying. You'll find examples as far back as films go; then, look for it in literature.

What I think people considered before this foolish belief that we can stamp out this behavior is that there always will be bullies, even into adulthood. Consider how often it occurs in the workplace and elsewhere in life. It's crazy to think that we'll ever be rid of it, as it's so common and always has been. I doubt that there's ever been a time in history when bullies weren't present.


(W)hat are we without our dreams?
Making sure our fantasies
Do not overpower our realities. ~ RC

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I agree with that. When I see these commercials about bullying I just shake my head. They show examples of somebody being excluded from a table at a cafeteria. Not being allowed to play in a game is considered bullying. But they do show a couple of real examples and their answer to everything seems to be to run and tell a teacher. While I"m not suggesting that kids are going to physically fight back and attack the bully, running for the nearest teacher is not a message I'd wanna send. Not only does that not fix the problem but there will come a time when there are no teachers around to tell. I've seen people get bullied in their 50's. They don't have the option of telling the teacher.

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I think that some of the girls were somewhat frightened of Moody, but then he had the "bad boy" thing going for him, too. My guess is that if Moody had a girlfriend that he most likely wasn't the most gentle of men with her.

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I can see him having a "girl" that he uses for sex. If he did say she was his "girlfriend" I am guessing he was jealous of her interacting with other guys, but cheated on her often.

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