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Calling Leon Redbone! Antenna TV Pilot is different than DVD version.


First of all let me applaud Antenna TV. They have showed this complete series in it's complete originally aired ABC network version. Nothing has been edited, they all run their original 24 min running time. The ten lost episodes were shown, eight of which also have a full 24 min running time. They have never been seen before this way because all syndicated prints were edited to 22 min back when these were originally shown. It is an understatement to say that this royal treatment never, and I do mean NEVER happens.

The show even has the original bumpers which lead into the commercials in which various cast members do voiceovers over a cast photo saying that "Mr. Belvedere will be right back". These were edited out of the DVD.

I paid attention mostly to season 5&6, as the others have been issued on DVD, and now was able to get them on my dvr and then burn them off with my DVD recorder. Today my dvr picked up the final episode and the pilot.

Finally getting the whole series, I put on the pilot just to see how much everyone had changed over the years. After the familiar first few scenes, I was shocked to see a totally different opening sequence than on the DVD. It is still a mélange of still photos of the cast but some are different. The background is purple instead of orange. What was really weird was that Leon Redbone was not singing the lead on the theme song. The guy sounds as if he is imitating Leon so it's probably a demo for him to put his voice on. The episode amazingly has a bumper with the weird lettering from the opening, and finally a (cool) rock version of the end theme I never heard before or again.

So what have we got here? I take it strongly that this is the original pilot as it aired the first time in 1985. I think the titles on DVD were made for the broadcast rerun, certainly it wasn't made for syndication which used generic opening titles until the Antenna broadcasts. Maybe it was made special for the DVD and they simply did not want to use the non Redbone version.

Anyway it is very interesting that Antenna seems to be giving us an experience closer to what we had in the eighties with the show, than the official DVD's are. Anybody who has the discs and have been watching notice any other differences?

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I think Antenna-TV is a joint venture between Sony and Fox. So what we are seeing on this channel is coming right out of the studio vaults. In other words, Fox is putting the show-- in its purest, unaltered form-- on Antenna-TV. My guess is that this is being done to create interest for the rest of the episodes on DVD. So if (when?) those later seasons are released, or if they decide to issue a complete series package (like we saw with other shows, such as Gimme A Break!), it will be interesting to see how the episodes look then.

Personally, I would not call those ten episodes 'lost' episodes.' They were simply unaired at the time of the original network broadcast. Other shows like 'Good Times' had unaired episodes at the end, too. But the minute they went into syndication they were all shown.

To me, a lost episode is something like 'The Honeymooners,' or the 'I Love Lucy' Christmas episode-- something that is deliberately left out of the syndication package and goes decades without being seen, then is again made available with great fanfare. The ten episodes of Belvedere that were unaired by ABC were immediately shown later in 1990 and 1991 in syndication. So they were first-run in syndication but not exactly lost or kept from the public very long.

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Well I guess "syndicated" episodes is a better term than lost, but the point of the post is that Antenna went above and beyond for Mr. Belvedere where even the most revered shows of all time get chopped up badly on syndicated television (and even DVD in some cases). I find it very cool this version of the first episode even exists.

By the way I checked episode two and it matches the DVD exactly so I guess no reason to tape the rest of seasons 1-4 except the bumpers and I have enough from season 5-6 and the pilot to make me happy.

I am going to double check my DVD's this weekend to make sure the episodes all have around a 24 min running time. If any run 22 min or so I will make sure to get the Antenna airing. I know it sounds crazy but store bought DVD's aren't always complete. Shout Factory can be really good on some DVD sets, but terrible on others.

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Doing a quick check with my cpu I was able to determine the running time of all the Shout Factory Belvedere's. There are nine episodes that have a noticeably shorter running time than was common that particular season. I am going to dvr these just in case there is more material on the known to be uncut Antenna versions. For those who want to do the same the titles are the following, followed by season and episode number for that season. The overall episode number is last in parenthesis.
Sweet Charity 1-7 (7)
The Prize 2-11 (18)
The Teacher 2-13 (20)
The Thief 3-1 (30)
The Ticket 3-11 (40)
Inky 3-13 (42)
TV George 4-2 (53)
Triangle 4-3 (54)
Moonlighting 4-5 (56)

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A real lost episode would be the Married with Children one, that didn't air at all until becoming "found". Or stuff like the early Doctor Who eps that the BBC destroyed.

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It DID air originally, but only in Canada and Australia.

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I love comparing pilots to final episodes.

Did you also notice George is a construction worker in the pilot? They made a wise choice changing him to a sports writer, and later broadcaster.

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Indeed, when I heard the singer, I thought it was Dr. John.

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Yup thought so too and Wikipedia confirmed it for me. Fun fact: Leon Redbone and Dr. John have a music video for Frosty the Snowman together... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DAtZBE5XXFo

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Yup thought so too and Wikipedia confirmed it for me. Fun fact: Leon Redbone and Dr. John have a music video for Frosty the Snowman together... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DAtZBE5XXFo

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