Why Mad Max 1/2 will out live 3

Oh, well, if YOU say so then that's the way it must be. 'Thunderdome' was always my favorite one, but if you say it's not good, well, I guess I just don't like it anymore.

I felt that Beyond Thunderdome was a bit too silly. There were a lot of comedy moments that just felt shoehorned in. Like when Blaster was repeatedly stomping on Max in the Thunderdome. Or the way Master and Blaster treated the mechanic dude. And other moments like that. It felt forced and didn't have the same feel as the first two.

The first two movies were raw and brutal.

People being raped, shot, burned etc. A lot of people say they weren't actually that violent. Well that's true they're definetly not amongst the most violent action movies ever made but they seem violent because unlike this movie, they have an eerie atmosphere, dangerous villains, horror vibe music, and even though they have a bit of humour, the overall tone is very serious.

Beyond Thunderdome is too tame and mainstream. No real grit, dirt, edge, everything's too clean and looks like a pop video. It doesn't even feel like it's the same universe as the first two. Aunty Entity, Ironbar and the rest of her henchmen are Disney characters compared to Nightrider, Toecutter, Wez, Humungous....

And if that's enough it's way too comical in parts and almost turns in to a Road Runner cartoon by the end. Ironbar has three deaths, and apart from him, Max doesn't kill anyone. How can Mad Max not kill anyone??

Everything is way too Hollywood family friendly. It's The Road Warrior meets Peter Pan, and to add insult to injury, it cuts off Mad Max's balls too.

My life fades... the vision dims... all that remains are memories

I agree, AndyK888. I own copies of both 1 & 2 and have seen them many times over the years, but only saw Thunderdome once. I felt that George Miller lost his way when making this film. Byron Kennedy, his longtime film-producing partner, died in a helicopter crash while location scouting for Thunderdome. I think this deeply effected George Miller and the resulting film. I am looking forward to Fury Road, but the more info comes out of all the interviews and publicity machine, the more I am concerned that while 1 & 2 were honest post-apocalyptic stories, 4 is a graphic novel brought to the screen which gives the audiences spectacular vehicle chases they want to see.

In interviews, Miller keeps saying this world the story is set in is reduced to a medieval level of technology. Why so many guns and reliable hand grenades? You need quite a few different metals, chemicals and machines to make bullets and hand grenades. Remember how in Road Warrior some of Max's shotgun shells did not fire or fizzled? Remember how The Great Humungous carried a pistol in a wooden case with less than a dozen rounds of ammunition and used it only as a last resort? Remember all the use of spears and arrows as weapons? You need more than gasoline and diesel to support that fleet of souped-to-the-max vehicles. You need a pretty substantial machine shop. Making nitrous oxide to juice up these vehicles requires a small chemical plant which needs specific chemical feedstocks, substantial energy inputs and other infrastructure.

What we appear to have with Fury Road is the George Lucas version of Mad Max. You know how in Lucas' Star Wars universe we get explosions in space? I will see Fury Road, but I expect I will find that the once-honest stories of a decaying post-apocalyptic world have been superseded by what looks best on the screen.

Mad Max 1 is boring as hell. Mad Max 3 is not a step down from the first movie. It's a massive disappointment after the second movie, admittedly, but Mad Max 3 is still a lot of fun - which is more than I can say for that first film.

Watching Thunderdome, I felt like it went a bit of the Empire Strikes Back route.Those kids were like Ewoks, and the story lost the edge of the former two. That said, I didn't mind it, it's just no Road Warrior.

Mad Max 3 is an action piece