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The gullibility here is proof itself of what men like Barnes were like


It would be amazing in a sane environment to see so many people being gullible about Barnes (and people like Barnes) having "compassion for his men" and being a "noble savage".

Barnes was a homicidal maniac, and like other homicidal maniacs, he preyed on gullibility of his future victims. He even showed he meant to sacrifice the lieutenant and the brown nosing O'Neil eventually.

That's what guys like that are. If Barnes worked on a road crew in the states, he'd try to trick a co worker into holding a flag in the middle of the road around a dangerous curve, hoping a vehicle would swing around fast. He proved that with the way he cheated his mean any chance he had, and going out of his way to ensure a cycle of violence and death to innocent bystanders.

There just isn't another possible motivation.

Now, obviously when dealing with "grunts", you're dealing with men who are sold on bravado, and are easily fooled by homicidal maniacs just because the maniacs are "rough". Geronimo and Manson talked tough, and had such feather brains following them, and if you follow them long enough, they'll get around to making you a victim.

Stone himself appears to believe in the extra dimension of men like Barnes, as do most people here, but that's a delusion based on modern Psychiatry, which is based on "rationalizing useful maniacs".

Those who've been around danger long enough, and around maniacs long enough, know what Barnes was. Demonic. No other motivation. Sure, he said he cared, and that fooled the idiots.


The fact that so many people here buy into Barnes being motivated by some degree of concern is proof itself that there is always an ample supply of morons for homicidal maniacs to destroy.




Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!

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And to make it worse, he was a stupid redneck and sociopath! Grew up poor and uneducated in the rural south, where the only decent people that are also poor and uneducated are also deeply religious.

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They, like Basques make good soldiers; they're already used to working hard while outdoors.




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How was Sergeant Barnes going to sacrifice Lt. Wolf?

How was forcing O'Neil to do his job sacrificing him? If he had allowed O'Neil to leave he would have depleted his force by one thereby making the battle for the remaining soldiers even more dangerous. The company was understaffed.

It doesn't seem like you were in the military. In situations where it's every man for himself, nearly everybody gets killed. In situations where it's every man for the good of the group, then there will be a higher number of survivors. You can read "War" by Sebastian Junger for a more detailed explanation.

How did Barnes cheat his men every chance he had?


If the villagers were innocent bystanders why were there no military age males in the village during the raid? Why did the village have a stockpile of weapons and explosives? Why was there a VC scout there? Why was there enough rice there to feed an army?

When Barnes sees Manny's dead body he begins figures he isn't fighting soldiers, he's fighting blood thirsty murderers. They didn't take Manny prisoner, they cut his throat. Soldiers

What Barnes did was illegal and immoral but it wasn't random.

Also, most people fail to notice this but Barnes is actually quite guilt ridden after the village raid and is remorseful to the point of wanting to die. Watch the "I am reality" scene closely. He wants the pot heads to kill him and is quite angry that they aren't willing to do it. He doesn't beg Taylor to spare his life at the end either it's just "do it". He's also happy before the final battle because of the prospect of his death is high.

I think he had those feelings although he really didn't understand those feelings himself and wasn't introspective enough to figure out a consistent course of action to take.

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((((( Watch the "I am reality" scene closely. He wants the pot heads to kill him and is quite angry that they aren't willing to do it.)))))

i dont think that was guilt. He over heard them talking about killing him, and he was issuing a challenge. 'Six of you boys against me, kill me'. that was his way of saying 'come try it'...

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If the villagers were innocent bystanders why were there no military age males in the village during the raid? Why did the village have a stockpile of weapons and explosives? Why was there a VC scout there? Why was there enough rice there to feed an army?


The NVA had a regiment's worth of troops in the hills around the village and more across the Cambodian border. Even IF the villagers didn't want the NVA there, there really wasn't anything they could do about it. Kind of like no matter what the residents of Watts & Compton or Bensonhurst feel about the cops, they really don't have choice to supporting the bloods or the crips or the Cosa Nostra because--they are always around & the police are not--IF they don't distrust or dislike the police to begin with.






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