Original Vincent VS New Vincent - A Drunk Rant

You do make some valid points -No show can ever be perfect b/c everyone has different expectations & opinions -I still prefer the 1987 version -I tried to watch the new one, but it just didn't hold up for me, even on its own merit

Still laughing.b Just saying.

I really like the show in 1988. Haven't got into this one. On my list of shows to try but just no time.

However.... I L O V E the rant.

ZuZu Petal's

One of the funniest things I have read in a long time! IT'S SO TRUE, ALL OF IT! Yes, you hit every single nail squarely on the head, pros and cons of both shows. Of course, I love the original, but yeah, it had some problems (RANDOM BEAR ATTACKS, hahaha). I tried to watch the remake but it was too painfully bad.

And yes, original Vincent. RON PERLMAN, BITCHES.

He always dressed like some medieval wizard because he was badass like that.

Fave!

"He's already attracted to her. Time and monotony will do the rest."

This is very entertaining! Hilarious and truthful all around.





Rest in Peace Lee Thompson Young. An angel gone too soon.

I know this is an old post but oh my goodness, I'm laughing so hard at this. Especially this part:

HIS CATHERINE SENSES WOULD ACTIVATE! AND HE’D BE THERE TO KILL WHOEVER THREATENED HER, AND NO ONE EVER QUESTIONED WHY ABOUT 60% OF CATHERINE’S LEGAL CASES ENDED IN SUPPOSED ‘RANDOM BEAR ATTACKS’. IN THE 80s. IN THE MIDDLE OF NEW YORK. IT CAN HAPPEN.

In a couple of the scenes in the original believe we saw The top of Vincent's chest hair


Walk Quietly through this Earth
Leave nothing but Smiles and Pawprints

I just watched the opening minutes of the 2012 BatB out of curiosity and had to bail after about 5 minutes, gagging on Catherine Chandler being a sl*t. One of the ironies of the perverts that feed on and thus promote today's filth is their laughably self-righteous bigotry in the gross hypocrisy of loathing those accused of being self-righteous for pointing out what is truly evil, especially concerning what assaults the sacredness of God and family as our society of ignorant useful idiots swirls down the sewer Nazi Germany did in the Weimar Republic before Hitler's takeover, as also happened in the 18th century French Revolution before Napoleon's takeover, as will happen here without God's undeserved intervention, fools always blind to history's inexorable repetition, for as in the aforementioned historical eras people eventually get tired of debauchery and the sad useful idiot fools are quite happy to have dictators come in to save them from themselves as will be the case soon here, God save us.

The original is always the best, the lovers started out right after the pilot episode. Vincent is a beast for life, he will never change into a handsome prince, he is fast on his feet, he has this ability to have a bond with Catherine that seemed to form when he found her. He can feel all that she feels even when she kissed Elliot (Vincent's rival) and it hurts him a lot knowing that he can't walk beside Catherine in public except on Halloween. Vincent is an educated man in sciences, math, poetry and literature he is even bilingual (he spoke Russian in Ashes, Ashes and knows sign language, I bet he speaks other languages). He is also chivalrous, polite, decent, compassionate and understanding, he treats Catherine as she loves to be treated (of course he senses what she feels and knows how to treat her).

He doesn't go into Catherine's apartment only when he can, example like when the corrupted cops beat up Catherine, he stayed with her but distant himself from her bed. When he was going through his mental break down he broke into her apartment and wrecked it (how the hell Catherine managed without neighbors call the cops? Don't know but lucky they didn't). When Catherine lost her father and chose to be with him, Vincent gave her a chamber close to his so he could be there for her and they did lay in the same bed together! Twice! Seems like they are only sharing a bed during a very dark time for both of them.

Their child is a sort of immaculate conception in a way like what he said that his peace is given to him but for a price. His bond was transferred to his son maybe also the addition to his peace was to lose his beloved Catherine. Remembering an episode when Vincent tells Catherine how he first experiences lust as a teenage boy that almost turned him. He felt so ashamed that he feared he would do the same to Catherine if he was ever close to Catherine. It showed in the pilot episode when he led her to the basement of her apartment building, she embraced him and he looked like he was restraining himself which made him worry about risking it further so he bailed fast as he could.

Bottom line the romance between Vincent and Catherine is so beautiful and more beautiful then the present BATB series.

Now the present BATB.

I heard about it and was angry but talked into giving it a shot so I did. Being familiar with KK from the Smallville series (another trainwreck I regret diving into but saw it through to the end cause I love Superman and I hoped that in time the show would be get better...sorry that it only met with some of my expectations). So first thing I noticed from the pilot episode is that KK acting style, it is Lana Lang with a different name and she is in NY and is a cop. She isn't tough, she has no dimension, the Catherine Chandler has too many details of her life that is confusing to keep up. The lines and environment of the show is more like Smallville just without the town and comic book stuff from him. Again her characters being the same they never stay focused on one thing, Cathy is one moment content with her Vincent the way he is till later she isn't and then flips back again.

This beast or Vincent is what some people wished they could have seen the original V and C did (again people their love is pure and they get their intimacy through their bond and yes a kiss once or twice). Vincent and Catherine in this series is all too modern for me, that flash mob scene was disappointing to me. No poetry, gothic art, classical music, nothing of renaissance in this series but I bet the creators of this one thinks that stuff is not good enough for his modern world. I dare them to try and I double dare the audience to like it just a bit.

My recommendation for this is instead of a remake they could just make a whole new series about Jacob (Vincent and Catherine's son). That he appears to the world above, when 9/11 happened many of the people below died and unlike the victims of that horrible day, Jacob mourns them along with some of the remaining helpers above. Or maybe the helpers all scattered in death or just lost in the world and Jake is the last one who knew the place below. He either becomes an attorney like his mother, a cop who happens to be advanced in literature, languages, sciences and so on. OR becomes a doctor like Vincent probably would have (I wonder what would Vincent had loved to become if he could have come to the world above? A doctor? a teacher? a reclusive writer?). Jay Ryan could have played Jake, I wouldn't have object to that, maybe make Jake develop his beast abilities when he was a teenager and it seemed to come like the Hulk when he is angry but when he falls hard in love like his father he finds some sort of balance. Maybe he falls for another lawyer or a cop or whatever some one with a creative thought for this series.