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Were the kids in the mothers plan as she pleaded with them?


Or did she really want them dead after years of being there?

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There's mixed views about this. The initial feeling I had was that the kids were in the mother's original plans, however, as she begins getting accustomed to the life she left, and the money, she begins to realise how easily her children can be shucked in favour of a better life with her new suitor.

In the book I think it was a slightly different and more complicated issue. I'm in two minds whether I believe her sincerity when she talks about wanting to get each child out of the house gradually through the poisoning.

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The part that's in spoiler tag isn't revealed in the first book. I've literally just finished reading it. It must be explained later on is the only thing I can think of.

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I don't believe her at all. I think she might have been sincere in the beginning, but as soon as the will was read (and the donuts started coming) she wanted to get rid of them. as long as they were breathing, they were a threat to her inheritance.

That's motivated by how she never took Cory to a hospital and stuffed him in that secret room. not in a ravine like she said on the way to the hospital. Cathy could smell the stench of death 12 years later in that part of the attic

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I think that AT FIRST she thought it would be an easy fix. That her father would die and then she would get the money. Once the will was discovered and she realized that if she acknowledged the kids she would lose the money. Maybe getting them sick and sneaking them out without anyone knowing and setting them up somewhere would insure that Corrine would get BOTH the family and the money. I don't think she willingly tried to kill her children but she put them in harm's way selfishly and without any regard to her kids' well-being. I do think she is solely responsible for the death of Cory and Carrie but not with the intention of killing them.

It didn't work of course but then again I never thought Corinne was that bright to start with.

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She knew almost immediately that her father would never accept her children and had no problem writing them off. The book goes into it more and shows the depth of her self-involvement. It shows her kids finding the will and reading that if it was ever proven she had children from her first marriage, even after her father's death, she would be disinherited and lose everything. The book sequels go further to explain that his will did say that, but also that she would be disinherited if she EVER had children in another marriage in the future.

You really should try to read the whole series, starting with Garden of Shadows which is really the Grandmother's story. It makes it clear just how sick and twisted the family is and continues to be after the kids run away, and it actually gives you a bit of sympathy for the Grandmother; she was a good person and probably would have remained so if she hadn't married Malcolm Foxworth. He is really where it all begins. Also, the mother doesn't die in the book and continues to be a huge influence on her kids, mostly on or through Cathy.

After they were taken over by a ghostwriter when Andrews died, her books became repetitive, but this series and My Sweet Audrina are very good. If you do want to read the series, the order is: Garden of Shadows, Flowers In the Attic, Petals on the Wind, If There Be Thorns, and Seeds of Yesterday.

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In Flowers in the Attic they don't find the will. Chris overhears it from 2 people discussing it.

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Oh and also, her father knew about the kids from the beginning. He had hired a private investigator to keep tabs on her after she ran away.

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Actually, if memory serves me correctly.. her father never knew about the children. Olivia got the package with the pictures of Christopher and Corrine and their four children. And Olivia didn't show it to him because she didn't want him to fall in love with the children so she kept that information from him. But it has been quite a while since I last read Garden of Shadows so I am not sure if that was the correct thing that happened.

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Be careful of reading Garden of Shadows first. Although it is a prequel to Flowers in the Attic, it wasn't first in publishing order as it was the last of the series. It reveals a lot of the ... Plot line that keeps you in suspense throughout the other books.

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Corrine was not a real smart woman. I think she honestly wanted to get them out of the attic until her father dies and left the clause in the will. I do not believe she ever had any intention of sneaking them out of the house with the poison. It should be noted that she did being to emotionally separate from them once she decided to marry Bart.

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I think it's left up to the reader to determine this.

In my case, I believe in the beginning she was fiercely protective of her children and really thought she might have a chance to get the money and have her children too. The longer she lived at Foxworth Hall and got accustomed to the things money could buy, her children faded into the background and she began to resent them when they asked to be let out.

I don't think she was trying to kill them (why kill them when she could just leave them there?) but she was playing a very dangerous game by trying to make them sick to get them out. I think in the end she really loved her children and regretted what she did.

Regarding Garden of Shadows - read it last and take it with a grain of salt. There are many inconsistencies.

-For instance, in GoS, Olivia keeps the birth of the children from Malcolm. In the rest of the series, we are led to believe that Malcolm knew all along (he looks up at the case Chris and Cathy are hiding in and Corrine later mentions that he knew and used it against her).
-Other inconsistencies include the names of Olivia's children - Malcolm "Mal" and Joel. When Joel mentions his brother in Seeds of Yesterday, he calls him "Mel." Some have tried to explain this as the Joel in SoY being an imposter.
-In Flowers in the Attic the children come to Foxworth Hall in the late spring/early summer. In Garden of Shadows, just before they arrive, Olivia mentions that snow is falling.

There are others, but those are some of the most blatant ones. In case no one could tell, I can't stand GoS.

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In case no one could tell, I can't stand GoS.

Regarding Garden of Shadows - read it last and take it with a grain of salt. There are many inconsistencies.
Agreed. That in general is why I don't like prequels/book prequels particularly those written by other authors. Even if there aren't huge issues and the author is the same I prefer to read them as they were published just to stay inline with the original intent of said author. Same goes for movies.

I don't think I would advise anyone to read or watch a prequel before the others on their first encounter with a book/series, but I'm noticing that's its becoming commonplace. Maybe it's my neurotic need to consume things in the order they were given but I just don't like it that way.

As for the topic, it's been a while since I read the series in its entirety but at the time I was a little younger and a bit less cynical. I used to think she wasn't malicious, but these days I'm not as sure. To try to explain away the horrible treatment she let them live with, I had to tell myself she was well-intentioned at the start and really did want them out but it's just not enough anymore. I do know she was very selfish so actually caring for them never even crossed her mind, it was more like she was doing whatever she could to skate around the issue so she wouldn't have to face it. Or maybe she was trying to convince herself but knew deep down it would never fly. And that's me being generous.






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In "If There lBe Thorns" Bart reads Malcom's journal. In his journal Malcolm says he had John spy for him they thought I wouldn't know.That's why he put the clause if she had Children or has any she won't inherit any $$$$$$.

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I felt like at first Corrine planned to try to get the money and let the kids out fairly soon. I think as time developed and she realized the clause in the will (likely she found out through the lawyer way before her dad died) she realized she didn't want to give up leading the extravagant life she had. This is why after maybe six months to a year there, Corrine ends up becoming even more distant to the kids - at that point she had chosen to keep them there forever.

The reason I came to this conclusion is it seems seriously odd that she shouldn't have at least sneaked them out from time to time to let them go outside for awhile. Her father was supposedly seriously ill and it couldn't have been that hard to try to buy off a couple servants to look the other way so to speak as the children come out - especially in the early morning or at dusk. She could have even spent the money she ended up spending on pretty clothes and jewels for extra food for the children as well.




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I agree with you. I think the money that she was starting to gather whilst living at Foxworth, would have been enough to set the children up in a different place entirely, ensuring they perhaps remained at least healthy rather than couped up in an attic for the amount of time they were.

But I do believe her to be a selfish woman who didn't have a lot of faith in herself and therefore chose to have the easiest lifestyle possible. Her children were locked up and her mother would ensure they stayed that way. At the beginning the children had trust in her and the methods she was using so wouldn't try to run away in the beginning.

I guess there wouldn't have been a story past FITA if they happened to escape so soon in VA eyes.

I don't know about others, as much as I enjoy reading the series from time to time, I can't help but feel a lot of sorrow of what could have been for those kids whilst I am reading it.

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In the beginning, she did love her children; this is made clear in the book. She visits them as often as she can, brings them food, gifts, helps them clean the attic so they can work on their artificial garden (the grandmother even brings them some flowers to use), tells them more about her childhood, etc. Once it becomes clear to her that her father would never accept her children (and he did actually know about them, it was confirmed in the next book in the series), and that she would never be able to inherit any of the family estate, the money, luxury, the romance with Bart Winslow, became her obsession and as others have pointed out, she began to resent her children. She did later say she wasn't trying to kill them, and maybe in the book, she wasn't. Corinne was not the brightest bulb in the box. She wanted to have it all, but she couldn't. At the end of the novel, when Cathy, Chris and Carrie escape, not only has the grandfather been dead for nearly a year, but Corinne and Bart are already married and on their honeymoon. Suffice to say her children had not been her top priority for the last half of the story at least. The film makes it seem that the mother was scheming and resentful of them from the beginning, especially Cathy. Cathy does see through Corinne before the others do.

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