after he went to London to find Maurice,the conversation he had with Maurice really makes me feel that he's asking for something else from Maurice and barely like a gay man.he acted like a barefaced blackmailer,especially when he said:'I know about you and Mr.Durham
'..and also later in the museum.so why do they have to make him look like that if in fact he's in love with Maurice I'm confused
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yeah they make sense:)
shareActually, I heard the opposite: Lawrence, a friend of Forster's, was one of the select few allowed to read <i>Maurice</i> while it was being written and rewritten. After he read it, he praised it highly, but told Forster that a gay romance would never be published. Then, apparently, he asked if he could write a straight adaptation of the novel, and thus was born <i>Lady Chatterly's Lover</i>. Several people have criticised <i>Maurice</i> for being a gay <i>LCL</i>, when in fact it is the other way round.
Or so I've heard.
It's funny but Forster himself was aware of that comparison -- only MAURICE came first; it was written in 1913/14 LONG before DHL wrote his rather silly book -- indeed, there's some evidence that Forster actually showed DHL MAURICE during a visit -- so if there was any copying going on, it was quite the reverse.
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Yes, I also heard that Lawrence copied from Forster. Interesting how James Wilby stars in the filmed versions of both novels.
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Apparently, D.H. Lawrence was one of the few people E. M. Forster showed his manuscript of 'Maurice' to, and Lawrence copied the gamekeeper (I think his name is Mellors) from Alec. I'm afraid I can't say anything else, as I haven't read 'Lady Chatterly's Lover', but it wouldn't surprise me if the books dealt with the same issues - after all, a good sexy romp with a bit of angst is always popular.
shareWow, that's interesting. I didn't know that bit about Lady Chatterly and Maurice.
Somebody already mentioned a pretty good adaptation of Lady Chatterly with James Wilby playing the impotent (well, wounded) husband and a sexy Sean Bean playing the gamekeeper.
Accumulation of small victories may lead to big defeat.
Love is confusing...
Alec was hurt that after Maurice has left, he didn't come back to visit him or his boathouse. Alec felt jilted.
It's hard to accept the fact that when someone sleeps with you and hearing no response from him, it makes you go crazy and all sorts of thoughts are running through your head...like "was he just using me, does he think that I'm so below him, etc. etc."
Of course, naturally, he wants to do Maurice harm (initially), because of the wrong he did him. But when he sees Maurice, especially at one of his tender moments at the museum, Alec can't help but go soft on him.
If you love someone that much, you are willing to put up with all their sh!#. As much as you might think you hate this person, you also love him to death.
You can probably tell that I'm going through similar emotions here...
Indeed, back then, it was not "will he call or won't he?" but "will he write or won't he?" :)
Well, the reasons were more or less stated and I agree to all of them. I had also another idea. Alec had slept not only with a rich man but also with the best friend of his, let's say boss, meaning Durham. So after he didn't hear from Maurice Alec probably wasn't only confused and jealous, he maybe also feared that Maurice would talk badly about him and that Durham would fire him then. Also, in addition, he feared of being outed. So threatetning Maurice was his only weapon to frighten him. In the end, of course, it didn't mean anything as they became lovers anyway.
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I didn't think the situation with Maurice and Scudder was set up very well. At the very least would should have seen a scene or two with Maurice gazing at Scudder with lust which Scudder would then pick up on but rather strangely Scudder just takes it upon himself to climb into the bedroom of a man way above his status in life and then start kissing him and pushing his way into his bed! Why would a servant dare to think he could have sex with someone from a higher class (notice the servants are pretty much treated like non-humans in this era) and certainly be so brazen as to make the first move! To say nothing of the fact that it was rather uncommon for most people to have sex out of marriage back then, clearly it was Maurice's first sexual experience as he acknowledges to the pyscharist.
Maurice panics after the act, fearing Scudder was only out to blackmail him (notice his reaction as he hears Scudder and a friend maliciously laughing and sharing a secret at the game). There may have indeed been a touch of predatory behaviour in Scudder's actions from the start (remember his hostile tirade about Clive's "bitch" of a mother and how he was treated there) and he did threaten to implicate Clive as well when he confronted Maurice. Perhaps Scudder had a change of heart realizing both how he could really destroy a lot of people plus the fact that he would have a hard time having people believe him made him retreat from his plans, and maybe he did just want another night with Maurice, who can really tell because the movie is rather vague here.
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