https://io9.gizmodo.com/12-of-the-weirdest-cases-on-unsolved-mysteries-1843399380
The Yeti, Bigfoot and the Rainboy episodes had some of the Robert Stack-hosted series' strangest moments.
My 12 still unsolved:
Phillip Fraser murder (Mystery Hitchhiker)
Don Henry, Kevin Ives murders (Railroad murder)
Connecticut River Valley Killer (Serial murders)
I-70 Killer (Serial murders)
Angela Hammond (abduction)
Morgan Nick (Disappearance)
Swedish Backpacker murders (1983)
Burrowing Burglars (1980´s LA Bank robberies)
Tom Johnson (Computer con killer)
Mabel Wood (Dog Kennel Arson/Animal cruelty)
Patsy Wright (Murdered by poisoning)
Dan Tondevold (Fraud, Murder)
DB Cooper
Please, people, Don Henry and Kevin Ives were not murdered.🙄
shareyes they were
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Don_Henry_and_Kevin_Ives
No, they were not. Don't forget those autopsies were done on behalf of the families. Their bodies must've been messed up, as if you can determine someone was stabbed or their skull was crushed BEFORE being hit. It's not like they found a bullet. And sure, no trace whatsoever of a tarp that must've been shredded to pieces. It's ridiculous. Half the world must've been involved in this supposed cover-up.They were high and decided to take a nap on the tracks, like so many drunks do. Those on the train simply noticed them too late and couldn't bear the guilt.
shareHi Strat. Thanks for your reply. While I think accidental death is plausible, I definitely believe foul play is a possibility too. There was a man in army fatigues that was seen behaving suspiciously in the area. It seems more than just a coincidence that this individual also shot at a policeman around the same time of the accident/murder.
shareHey, Billy!
I have to disagree that foul play is as plausible as accidental death.
There are suspicious people everywhere. The shooting took place a week earlier. I'm also not sure what "nearby" even means. What also stands out is that the boys were not shot.
The murder theory all seems to go back to the parents not being willing to accept that their sons smoked pot that night and fell asleep on the tracks.
I could see the argument of one kid falling asleep on the tracks after getting high/doing drugs/whatever, but the idea that both did so isn't believable.
I "partied" heartily as a teen and hanged around tracks at times, but never fell asleep on the tracks. But let's say I happened to pass out on the tracks, I'm pretty sure a friend would have the sense to drag my body off the tracks. The same applies here.
In short, the incident is seriously fishy and foul play is a strong possibility.
They were both high, why would they have any common sense? One thought it was a good idea and the other joined in. Maybe it simply started with them taking a rest. It's certainly more believable then dozens of people conspiring to make a shredded piece of tarp disappear. And if the entire police department is involved, why make things so complicated? Just throw them in a lake or river and call it accidental drowning.
shareThe boys were lying motionless across the tracks and they did not move even when the train blared the horn. This is from unbiased witnesses on the scene (in the train). No way pot from the 80s would knock them out like that, no matter the amount; PCP or a knock-out drug, sure, but not marijuana.
Evidence points to the kids being killed -- stabbed or bludgeoned -- and then placed on the tracks obviously to cover up the crime. The culprit(s) could be a family member or friend/acquaintance; perhaps even one of the parents. Maybe drug traffickers killed 'em because they "knew too much."
I don't buy the theory that they were simply snoozing on the tracks due to too many joints; that's just eye-rolling.
"This is from unbiased witnesses on the scene (in the train"
Except they are not at all unbiased. They're the people who ran them over. Of course they like to believe they did all they could, they must be haunted by guilt. It's why they made up the ridiculous tarp story. I can't believe anyone takes that seriously.
You can't determine so easily that someone hit by a train was stabbed or bludgeoned beforehand, especially since those wounds can very much be the result of the collision.
"The culprit(s) could be a family member or friend/acquaintance; perhaps even one of the parents. Maybe drug traffickers killed 'em because they "knew too much.""
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Pretty eccentric drug traffickers, huh? Why not shoot and bury them like they usually do? And how lucky the authorities decided to just call it an accident. Oh, they were also in on it? Then why even stage such a complicated scene?
https://www.google.com/search?q=people+falling+asleep+on+railroad+tracks&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
"The murder theory all seems to go back to the parents not being willing to accept that their sons smoked pot that night and fell asleep on the tracks."
I actually agree that this is a very common phenomena in parents, in that, many do not like to lose their loved ones to mundane circumstances. So, I generally believe accidental death is most likely the cause of death in cases like this but in this specific one, I am on the fence.
I honestly don't see anything suspicious about this specific case. It's just unfortunate that an incompetent medical examiner was involved.
shareDidn´t the train driver who ran them over, say he saw a tarp over the bodies when he ran them over which later mysteriously disappeared?
shareYes, and I find that absolutely aburd. Either every single shredded piece of that tarp magically disappeared or every single person on the scene besides the train crew was involved in some kind of conspiracy.
Also, if you want to cover up a murder, why use a tarp? A blanket would make much more sense. Personally, I think the guilt over not seeing them in time is the reason they imagined a tarp.
Yeah, I don´t buy into any conspiracy, I just found his testimony strange. If they wanted to make it look like accidental death, why bother cover them with anything?
shareI guess the idea is that the crew wouldn't be able to see them in time. But that's just stupid. Who's to say they wouldn't see the tarp in time? And they're obviously going to mention the tarp. Also, why would you think you'd be able to recover every single piece?
shareStupid indeed. It just never made any sense from both sides for me. Being somewhat of an ex-stoner myself as a teenager, I can´t imagine just deciding to pass out on some railroad tracks while high.
shareI think there are daredevil accidents that occur around tracks but not people falling asleep on tracks. I have never heard of any.
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