Selleck as victim/punk?


Why would cons single out Selleck to be their punk?

He's a big old dude (around 6-4 or so, weighs in around 240), sort of course and hairy. Aren't there a host of slender young boys who would make for more fun? I could see harassing him, taking his stuff, squeezing him for dough, but sex?

I had the same problem with "Escape from Alcatraz." Clint Eastwood was a big dude with "Don't eff with me" written all over him, but big, fat Wolf goes after him anyway.

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All that presupposes the nutbar doing the choosing is ruled by logic.

In fact lots of "big guys" get through life never having to learn to fight, just because their size keeps them from being victimized. In prison, I could see a psycho like jingles, who is also a very big guy, believing he could further enhance his reputation by making Jimmie his kid.

At first Jimmie seemed intent, on not allowing himself to be provoked, that is until Virgil clues him in.

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I see your point. Both Selleck and Eastwood were very handsome, but not exactly pansy looking. Perhaps it's a flaw in the script, but it's a minor flaw. And in both films, although Jingles and Wolf threatened to go after Selleck and Clint for sex, neither actually made a sexual advance. As I think about it, it was dramatic license to create a situation that allowed Selleck and Clint to take out and beat up a repulsive tough guy.

In the case of Selleck, it would have been nice, after he shanked Jingles, if he also cut his balls off. However, that probably would have created too many enemies among the brothers. Still it was great that Selleck took Jingles out.

In the case of Clint, it was great to see him stuff a bar of soap in Wolf's mouth and to see Wolf's ugly fat asss sticking up in the air, after Clint gave his fat stomach a workout. It's too bad that film didn't include Wolf getting taken out, but that would have messed up the theme of the film.

Having never been in prison, I don't know who in reality the cons usually go after for sex.

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Most likely, some bullies, in and out of prisons, target big guys just to prove to themselves and others that that they are tough, fearless, and are not to be messed with. They could also be jealous because they are not taller.

I am 6'4, 261. I was around the same size in high school, and I had plenty of little guys like the bully from "Of Mice and Men" harass me, glare at me, and talk trash to me for literally absolutely no reason at all sometimes.

Most bullies, tough guys and psychos are typically 6'0 or shorter honestly. A Napoleon complex can go a long way.

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"In the case of Selleck, it would have been nice, after he shanked Jingles, if he also cut his balls off."

You may want to seek some professional help.

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Clearly, had Selleck grown his Fu Manchu prior to going to prison, no one would have ever bothered him.

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Well I certainly wouldn't mess around with Selleck cuz he is indeed a big guy. But bully's like Jingles (especially ones with a posse of thugs) can sense when someone is nervous or afraid or even just a nice guy & they see that as a weakness. That's why a big guy like Selleck or Eastwood or even Tim Robbins (another big guy) were targeted by other inmates despite their imposing height/builds. It's just as much mental as physical.

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Jingles messed with Jimmy because Jimmy is simply white.

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White, but also obviously not connected, not part of the criminal or prison world, naïve and inexperienced. In the beginning, he didn't "clique up". Jingles knew no one would back him up if he tried to make him his punk.

Rainwood was easy pickings.


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The black guy Jingles is even larger than him, and that is really not the point. These are hardened criminals, that are in prison gangs. Selleck's character was just a normal citizen, so this world is completely alien to him. They realized that much right away. So Selleck is a pretty big guy, but he is not a hardened criminal like these guys, and he is not going to be able to fight off 5-6 people. After he shanks Jingles he changes, and gets some jailhouse respect from the other convicts. He had to do that, or otherwise he would have been passed around like a bag of oreo's.

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