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Since when is Freddy aware that he's being filmed?


Seriously, talk about breaking the fourth wall.

Why oh why did that talentless hack Talalay decide to have Krueger giving us a 'sssshhhhh' sign when going after Carlos? It's like Freddy is acting about for US because he knows he's in a film or something. It just made the whole thing pathetic.

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It's a Looney Tunes reference, and an ill-placed one at that.


It's always funny until someone gets hurt and then it's just hilarious!

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That wasn't the only Looney tunes reference in this movie either which brought the film down alot. Freddy isn't supposed to be acting like a cartoon. He is supposed to be cruel and frightening.

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I think it just shows Freddy REALLY enjoys what he's doing, and relishing in it. To me that makes him very cruel.

To Freddy, killing people and torturing them is the equivalent to a child being turned loose in a toy store, and that really comes out here, I noticed that the way he laughes when he kills Spencer, he seems SO amused and exilirated. He almost seemed like a child on X-mas morning! :)

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Very good point. There is times in this movie where he is being cruel like he was in the last three movies. Him dancing around Carlos because Carlos can't hear him and Freddy poking fun at that, but I think that part got a little out of hand. I really liked him having complete control over Spencer too, but then that got out of hand. I agree with your last post though entirely.

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No kidding! One of the many reasons this film sucked!!!

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I liked it I dont care what people say, I like NOES b/c there is a variety, it scares me and makes me laugh, I wouldn't like it if it was just straight horror all the way through.

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I LOVED this film. And just call Freddy the Deadpool of Horrror.

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Someone really should make something like that, Have Freddy visit Deadpool in his dreams. Freddy kills him and he keeps coming back.

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Just because he looks in the direction of the camera doesn't mean he knows that it's there...

He's pulling all sorts of mocking faces and contorting himself just for his own amusement, and it's in context, given the hearing loss.






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Of course he knows he's in a movie. He does pop out of the screen in the next movie, so to speak.

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Good point.

However I liked that weird bit.

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you would think Talalay would of givin some kinda crap about the movie. the only cartoon reference this flick was missing was someone running off a cliff, hovering in mid air and freddy handing them an anvil. ...hmm..i wonder if Talalay was ever approached to do space jam, seems right up her ally.

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This whole movie is dreadful.

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Maybe he was acknowledging the Dream Demons.

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Q: Since when is Freddy aware that he's being filmed?

A: Since this series became f-cking stupid to begin with!

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The entire film's a complete mess. For the final sendoff, they should have gone back to the series' roots. Instead, they just went berzerk. The weird Twin Peaks vibe the town had, the celebrity cameos, the bizarre headache inducing 3D sequence at the end, turning Freddy into a pantomime villain that hams it up for the audience... and those death scenes... wtf were they thinking?

I'm pretty sure everyone involved was off their tits on crack when they made this. It's the only logical explanation for how this insultingly awful turd of a film ever saw the light of day. It genuinely has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

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MrE26 - I completely disagree. There are redeeming qualities to every NOES film (except the remake...), and that's why I like them all so much in their own way. They all have cool ideas, scenes, moments, etc, this one included.

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I agree with the last post. I wonder what were they thinking making a remake so dull?

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They went even further in FvJ. They basically started the movie with him delivering exposition right into the camera!

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Cut out the scene with Freddy shushing the audience. Cut out Freddy dressed like a witch and riding a broom. Replace the video game kill with a different (more horror based) kill scene, and this would have been a better movie.

The film needed a higher body count too, as did Dream Child. The original Nightmare gets away with the low body count due to it being an original, frightening, and all around well made horror film. None of those things could be said for Parts 5 and 6.

This film, since it's so different, doesn't even feel like a part of the Nightmare canon. It feels more standalone, just like NN. The difference being that NN is an all around well made horror film which is something this series hadn't seen since Part 3, while FD is essentially a parody of the series (I like the film a little better ever since I started looking at it like that).

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Freddy as the witch was COOL! I don't care what anyone said, it was said a lot of his character was based on a witch, so I thought it was fitting and funny.

So I LOVED the Wicked Freddy of the East. :)

ANd I disagree with all these ppl who say that EVERY horror movie needs a HUGE body count. A movie can be scary without everyone getting slaughtered.

I always thought Poltergueist was TERRYFYING and no one got killed, that I rememeber.

NOES has always been a long the lines of psychological horror, and not bloody gory slahser like FRI 13, imo.

But I think this movie had some of the most disturbing images of all the movies, I mean taking a girl back and making her relive being raped by her dad, and picking on a deaf kid, those were some of the sickest things ever.

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Did Freddy go; "Sssssh!", or did the evil entity mentioned in New Nightmare do it? Remember there is an evil deity that is trapped in these films, that escapes after the last Freddy film?

Maybe HE knew he was being watched?

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I never thought of it that way but I have no problem with Freddy being a clown, it makes him more sick and twisted.

In dreams weird stuff happens, so I think all these things are fitting, there are enough movies that are just flat out scary, and even the early NOES movies were basically flat out horror, so the later movies can be fun, silly and still terrifying.

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I know I'm a little late here but

the next film doing this very thing. Freddy is real and seeping through the movies and we are part of it.


I strongly believe this is only possibly seen or interpreted this way because of Craven essentially re-kickstarting it in New Nightmare (where what you said does happen, but due to the demon not being trapped in a strong enough or 'scary' cage and since he'd been turn into a cartoon, essentially as Wes himself said in the movie "the genie's out of the bottle").

but hey however you like to enjoy things, who am I to judge?

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