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Why was Freddy more dead in this than in the others?


At the end of each film Freddy dies, but in the next film he comes back to life.

Why, when they kill Freddy in this one, do they act like he is finally dead? I don't see them killing him in this one any different to any of the other ones.

Was it just because The Dream Demons (a concept they invented in this film) ran away at the end?

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He's only alive again in Freddy vs Jason, New Nightmare doesn't count, it's a movie about the movie.


But yeah to me he didn't seem anymore dead at the end of this one than any of the of others.

I thought his death at the end of 4 was much better.

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Didn't you see the *beep* effects of the 3 demon sperms leave Freddys body? That's how you know he's really dead!

That and the fact the title is stupid, Freddys already dead!

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In the original script of Freddy's Dead, the dream police described Freddy as not really being dead but not really being alive either.
But I don't have a problem with the title, you KNOW what they're talking about otherwise it's just playing around with semantics.

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"Didn't you see the *beep* effects of the 3 demon sperms leave Freddys body? That's how you know he's really dead!"

Yes, I saw that. I even referenced it in the original post. The real question is, why did the "dream sperm" run away from him in this film, when they hadn't in any of his previous film-ending deaths? Why suddenly in this film, did they decide to run off? There was no reason for it.

I really just think it's kind of weak anyway. The Demon Demons weren't mentioned in the first 5 films at all. They were suddenly invented in this film, just so they could escape Freddy's body when he died.

All it would've taken was one line of dialogue that explained that stabbing Freddy with his own glove would cause him to die, and the ending would've made a lot more sense.

Stabbing him, and saying; "Freddy's dead" in a smug voice was lame, and didn't really give any explanation as to why he couldn't come back to life like he had done many times before.

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"Freddy's Dead" is the only film of the series where Freddy is actually dead at the end (not withstanding "Freddy vs. Jason"s' retcon). At the end of the other movies, there's some indication that Freddy (the Freddy of the canon series, "New Nightmare" is not part of the formal series) is still kicking:

1.) He drags Marge back into the house
2.) His hand reaches out of a kid on the bus
3.) His knives are heard scraping metal from inside the model house
4.) Alice sees his reflection in a fountain
5.) His hand reaches out to harass Amanda Krueger/the jump rope kids are humming again.
8.) His head winks at the audience and laughs triumphantly

Also, Toking, the Dream Police were not in a script for "Freddy's Dead". They were in a script for a Nightmare 6, yes. But not "Freddy's Dead" (there is a difference). I know the script with the Dream Police is labeled as "Freddy's Dead", but it's not. That name was only ever attached to the Rachel Talalay/Mike De Luca project.

"Freddy's Dead" was a joke name. It's a reference to the Curtis Mayfield song "Freddie's Dead" from the 70's.

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They blew him to bits with dynamite and those 'dream demons' (who allowed him to function as he does in the world of dreams) were released and would've had to find a new host. Freddy vs. Jason contradicted all that, but if that movie hadn't happened then I could see the finale here being what ultimately does him in. If the viewer is willing to buy into the dream demon theory, then it makes sense. In none of the other movies were they able to release what gave Freddy his functionality. They just stifled his power until - I guess - those demons managed to restore him.

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They pull him put of the dream and make him alive and human again. Killing him out of the dream means killing him as a human.

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"They pull him put of the dream and make him alive and human again. Killing him out of the dream means killing him as a human."

But Freddy's Dead wasn't the only film in the series where Freddy was pulled out of the dream, and he still found a way to come back to life.

I always thought that it was a weak ending, that's all. If you're going to kill off a character that has come back to life on many occasions, you have to find a way to convince the audience that he's really dead this time. And I don't think they did that very well.

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As others have said already, pulling him into the real world and killing him there, especially blowing him to smithereens where there were not even bones of Freddy left, esentially ended his very existence. The Dream Demons were freed, they couldn't take him over again to make him "immortal", so they went to whereever it is they go. Freddy had been pulled out of dreams before (NOES 1, at least we "think" he was, since in that one people believe the last 20 mins is a dream) but he always found his way back to his dream realm. He had only ever been "killed" in the dream world, where he would always eventually come back.

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The only explanation I can come up with is that he is actually, tangibly killed in this one. In the others, he's either killed in a dream, or when he's pulled into real life, he's killed "mentally" (like when Nancy turns her back on him in part one). In this one, he's pulled into real life and killed by physical means.

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It's always been my interpretation that by the end of most of the Elm Street movies, the line between the dream world and reality have become so blurred that when they think they've pulled him out of a dream to kill him they actually haven't. They're still actually dreaming, but by that point have gained enough insight and control over Freddy's realm that they've taken enough power from him to weaken and [temporarily] kill him. I don't think he's ever actually pulled out of a dream and into reality; that contradicts the whole premise of the character. He's dead. He can't come back to life.

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