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They were both horrible parents


Now obviously Miranda is far worse but regardless of that you don’t trash the other parent in front of the kids which they both did. If they love their kids they would want them to have a healthy relationship with the other parent. There was no reason why Miranda couldn’t just let Daniel take the kids after school like he proposed (it’s clear she wants to keep the kids away from him just to hurt him, because she doesn’t love him anymore, she’s using the kids as emotional leverage which is so wrong), on top of that she jumps all over him for saying “goddamn” in front of Mara yet she did the very same thing earlier. The way they were both acting it was very likely the kids concluded the family troubles were their fault.

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We all see things differently, but I see Daniel as a truly horrible parent. Loving kids is not enough. A buddy for a parent is an enabler who teaches the kids to ignore authority and do what they want while worry about the consequences tomorrow if at all. Most women would have left Daniel or any husband who never grew up.

Miranda was not only the sole breadwinner (reliable breadwinner anyway), but she also had to do all the housework, shopping, cooking, and most likely help the kids with their homework. I think she would have been happy if Daniel only stayed out of her way and not add crap to her already ridiculous schedule.

Sure, by the end of the film, Daniel learned his lesson and finally grew up. He got a steady job, maintained a nice apartment, and finally became a real father to his kids and not just a buddy. If he had done that before, he'd still be married to Miranda, but then, we'd have no movie either.

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Miranda frequently trashed Daniel in front of the kids, I don’t know how much of a son of a bitch he’s being you don’t do that, and yes Daniel did the same thing.

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Really, what I feel is that Miranda was a bitchy uptight killjoy.
Daniel may have had his faults as well, but I must say that she went too much towards the other extreme.

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Really, what I feel is that Miranda was a bitchy uptight killjoy.


What I would say to that is to walk a mile in her shoes.




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Well, I don't believe that I'm the same personality type as her at all.
So I guess I would have made different choices along the way than she did.

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Everyone is different. I'm sure a woman who was previously married to an abusive drunk would find Daniel a dream. Sure, he's unreliable as a breadwinner, he's a child in a man's body, and he makes Miranda's work load a nightmare, but Daniel also loves and adores Miranda and his kids and would never hurt them which is why we like Daniel.


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I kind of take the trashing of the other parent as a given, as wrong as I believe it to be. My prob with the mom was she calls it quits. We hear her spout all the examples of things the dad does that piss her off but the movie doesn’t really convince me the marriage needs to end. Daniel obviously wants to save the marriage with counseling, vacation trip, moving, anything he can think of to keep the family together and all that bitch has to say is ”it’s too late for that”. We didn’t have cable growing up and we had this movie play on vhs repeatedly at our house and I think that it caused me to despise divorce or at least despise the instances involving kids and one parent wants out simply because they are “not happy”.

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Well, it's a comedy! How much bad parenting by Daniel do we need to see to set the story up? Daniel is in his mid 40s and still hasn't grown up. I'm sure Miranda begged him for years to stop being a child. From what we see it looks like he hasn't held a job for more than a few months since he got married. He didn't finally grow up until he lost visitation rights to his kids.

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Ok yeah you're right about him not holding down a job. When he first sees the kids at the bus stop the oldest already knew it must be because he lost his job. So point well taken there. I still gotta say though, as crazy as this plot would be in real life, the movie still does a good job of making Daniel look like the good guy and making Miranda very unlikable, at least that’s how I always saw it.

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I agree. I always felt that throwing your kid a crazy party shouldn't be the last straw to break up a marriage.

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Now I guess that some people will say that she had dealt with an irresponsible husband for years before that.
But I must say that my sympathy lies with Daniel.

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It's possible she dealt with stuff before the film, but I mean, she drew the line at him throwing a party for his kid? That's it?

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Like I said, my sympathy lies with Daniel.
Because no matter what his faults may have been, I simply can't stand Miranda.

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