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Why no mention of Harvey Pekar?


In American Splendor (another excellent movie, btw), Robert Crumb gets mention and a character of him in a biopic of Harvey Pekar. . . so why isn't Pekar in this doc?

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Thanks, that make sense now :)

I was gonna get a flat bottom but the girl at the boat house didn't have one.

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HARVEY PEKAR--SNUBBED IN "CRUMB" by Dane Youssef


That's damn funny, 'cause I was pondering the same thing myself. When I founf out they were pals and they collaborated on many of Harvey's projects--Crumb drew out a lot of Harvey's comics and he even got a lot of his other underground friends to do illustrations for Harvey's... well, the "story of his life."


Harvey wasn't even vaguely thought of in "Crumb." Why? It's like it never came up.


Harvey certainly referenced one R. Crumb "Mr. Keep On Truckin'" in HIS "American Splendor" movie. Eh, Crumb was the biggest celebrity art talent Harvey ever had anything to do with. Pekar was no star--until of course, his movie.


But ol' Bob Crumb and Harv were friends. Very good friends. They even traded LPs and all that, which is the highest plateau that someone close to Crumb could have.


Don't you agree?





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I suppose, but the other poster made sense in that the makers of Crumb were trying to capture his seedy underbelly, if you will, to lead up to his eccentric career. But I wonder why they didn't even mention Harvey.

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Well, not to demean everything Harvey's accomplished - I enjoy his work and all - but Harvey isn't really that significant a writer... his significance in comics and the art world is small potatoes when put next to Crumb, and this is totally disproportionate to his strong personailty... his mere presence on the film would undermine the flow of the interviews filled with depressed, self-loathing people. Harvey's just has miserable as the characters in Crumb but he's a lot angrier, he'd throw the focus off balance when put next to Crumb in person.

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Crumb was about analyzing Crumb as a person delving deep into his persona and trying to find out what makes him tick and not just a chronicling of his life. American Splendor on the other had is the Story of Harvey Pekar and all the people he has met over the course of his life in Cleveland and therefore takes a much more direct chronological approach as apposed to Crumb which takes a documentary investigative approach. Because Pekar was not a great influence on Crumb as a person he was not included in this picture.

Evolution is a fact, not a theory. - Carl Sagan

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"Crumb" predates "American Splendor" by almost ten years. Harvey Pekar was barely recognized outside of a small set of fans prior to "American Splendor." Crumb on the other hand is internationally known. The reason Crumb showed up in "Splendor" is because he really helped make HP successful, not the other way around. Crumb is important to HP's story, HP is a small blip in Crumb's story.

That's not to say that HP doesn't do good work or anything like that, but it is the fact of the matter.

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yeah but since they were good friends and they worked together they could have done an interview with Harvey, his take on Crumb would have been interesting

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They may well have interviewed or mentioned Pekar but never made it into the film. Or maybe Zwigoff couldn't locate him. No one knows. But this doc was done well before American Splendor and it's not like Pekar was that important to Crumb's personal and family life which is what "Crumb" is about. There's really not many interviews or cameos from his friends here anyway. It's mostly family and exs. Im sure if "Crumb" had come out this decade instead of the 90s that Harvey Pekar would have been mentioned.

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