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Was pride rock filled with incestuous lions?


Males don't tolerate other offspring who don't belong to the pride male/males. The only male we see in the pride is Mufasa. So who was Nala's dad?
With simba, Usually when a male offspring hits sexual maturity the father drives them out of the pride, but simba was set to take mufasa's place in the pride. A pride that's filled with besides his mother, other family members like cousins and aunts. So was simba going to Mate with his family members?

I know it's a Disney movie so I'm kind of joking before someone points out its a cartoon movie, but you can tell when they were putting this movie together they didn't watch too many nature documentaries.

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This is an obvious problem that can arise from a movie that humanized animals. Anyone who know anything about lions can certainly point this out. That being said, as a middle of the road viewer of this film, this ranks pretty close to the bottom among possible flaws. In other words, it's a fun thing to point out, but has no real baring on the quality of the film.

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The only male we see in the pride is Mufasa.


Actually, he has a brother who shows up once or twice in the movie.

So who was Nala's dad?


Here we go again...

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Well I guess Scar was kind of part of the pride but chose to keep his distance.
Either way, even if Scar was Nala's dad, that would still make her and simba cousins.
lol

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I was actually going to post a thread about this (Nala's dad, not the other stuff) a couple of days ago, but ended up never quite getting around to it. Doing some research for one of my own fantasy stories, I was researching lions, and came upon an interesting fact, lion oestrus lasts, depending on which website you go by, anywhere from 4-7 days, with 4 being the most common figure.

This provides a small window to the point that if the previous king mates with an impregnates Sarafina within the first day or two of her oestrus, but is then forced out, Mufasa and Scar can still mate with her unsuccessfully, but by the act believe that Nala is in fact one of their daughters, which would mean they don't kill her, even though she isn't actually one of their daughters.

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If they did believe nala was one of their daughters but really wasn't, still makes you wonder how could the pride approve of simba and Nala's relationship when as far as they know it, the 2 of them are either siblings or cousins.

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That's true. Overall the thing's a bit of a mess.

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On Simba and Nala's relationship, when they're cubs Zazu simply states "Your parents will be thrilled", and Simba only objects to it because she's his friend. There's nothing at all about them being related.

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I know it's a hard pill to swallow, to find out that the Pride Rock pride are the redneck trailer trash of their lion species. J/k

It does make you wonder though. So some random male entered the pride. Mated with one of mufasa's females and he was cool with it? Mufasa lets the random male get visitation rights with Nala on the weekends? Lol

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Might have been filmed in a Fritzl basement.

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Mufasa. If she belonged to another male outside of the pride, he would've killed her. Lol

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Mufasa or Scar.

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So Mufasa was either her father, or her uncle. Lol

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It's best not to think about it. Also Lion King 2 is disturbing in the same way lol

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You have to realize that Lion King is set as more of a humanized world rather than the actual animal kingdom. They still act like animals, but a lot of the behaviors relate more to the human monarchy type of place. I honestly don't think Simba and nala are related.......they look nothing alike, Nala looks like a younger version of Sarafina!

Yes people make the argument that Scar/Mufasa don't look alike, but they could possibly (like in the books) have a Mother with brown fur and green eyes, and a Father with golden fur and red eyes.

Nala shares no attributes with Scar or with Mufasa for that matter. I believe that Sarafina mated with a rouge male, or that Sarafina's mate died before the events of the film take place.

Let's remember this is a Disney movie, I hardly think that incest would be a theme in the film. Disney never states who Nala's Father is, but I choose to believe it was a rouge Lion.

Or who knows? Nala and Sarafina could have been brought in from another pride just so that Nala could become betrhothed to Simba. After all Sarafina looks different from the other pride lionesses.

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It is true, the dominant male will breed with many females, meaning simba and nala are half-siblings. So, it would be Mufasa.

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Or Scar at an outside chance.

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Lol Still doesn't help the situation since that would make Simba and Nala cousins, but like someone else mentioned earlier. It's probably best to just let it go.

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Or Scar at an outside chance.


Scar is (or looks) too weakly to be breeding with the females and lionesses do not generally mate with weakly lions.

Besides, I doubt Disney gave much thought to who Nala's father was when they made the film, but they certainly wouldn't have intended her to be related to Simba - I mean, incest in a Disney movie?! - though as you say, in reality she would have been. But then, in reality Simba would have left the pride and taken over another one when he grew up, not taken over from his father. They probably didn't expect people to ask questions about Nala's father, but why not assume he was another male who left the pride, or died?

Like all Disney films, 'The Lion King' is not meant to be factually accurate. Lions do not have kings, for one thing. For another, Simba would have eaten Timon and Pumbaa, not made friends with them. Mufasa and Scar, rather than being enemies, would have worked together to defend the pride from invading males, Rafiki appeared to be some sort of mutant baboon-mandrill hybrid, during the song 'I Just Can't Wait To Be King' some giant anteaters appear (these animals are native to South America, not Africa), real lions rarely have only one cub at a time, and this is the norm in the film ... need I go on?

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Given the fact that they are lions and not humans, incest doesn't initially play a big part in being looked at as an issue of morality. Both from perspectives of creationism and evolutionary perspectives, all living beings were made or designed to procreate in terms of males or females. It's for population and breeding in terms of survival and existence. Even with proof that direct incest between first-degree relations of species cause developmental issues, those issues naturally die out due to further evolutionary progression in mating as the distance becomes greater between relation of two creatures. So yes, there is an incestuous link because it's the nature of the beast to be sexually active and produce life in its most primitive form. This still happens today when cats mate to produce kittens, or dogs mate to make puppies. They are animals acting on primitive instinct. Incest is not an issue to them, because that's something that human society created as a moral dilemma.

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i thought it was common knowledge mufasa was her father? especially if we are to believe they were 'humanized'-royalty inbreds all the time. (or used to)

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I would say incest is a problem with some species. Like with lions for example, the pride male will run the young males out of the pride when they hit sexual maturity to prevent them from trying to mate with their female family members.

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