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Somerset could've easily stopped Mills from killing Doe

posted 2 years ago by MikeHunt12345 (793)
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Remember, Mills never saw inside the box. So Somerset could've said something like this: "I swear to god that's not Tracy. She's white, the woman in that box is black. Doe must've seen her near your apartment, and thought she was your wife."

Of course that's not very plausible, but it would've made Mills very confused, he would've been unable to do anything other than stand there wondering what's going on. This would've given Somerset enough time to grab Doe, drag him to the car, and drive away.

[–] PaladinNJ (20374) 2 years ago

Wasn't Somerset as much in shock as Mills was? I don't think he would have been able to rationalize a plan like that in time to stop the outcome.

[–] StinkyPoopyPants (2734) a year ago

I just watched this again and was thinking the same thing. Why didn't he just lie and convince him it wasn't his wife. It would have been incredibly cruel though because he'd get his hopes up only to have to devastate him later. I'm not sure which would have been the better choice 😥

[–] Heisenberg (6389) a year ago

He just needed to say "he will get the chair. Don't waste your life. Don't let him go that easily. Don't let him win."

What he says instead is the perfect phrasing to make Mills shoot.

[–] PaladinNJ (20374) 5 months ago

I would be surprised if he didn't end up covering for Mills.

[–] Heisenberg (6389) 4 months ago

Yes, that's clear.

But he DID fuck up with trying to stop him from making such a mistake:
He seems like he doesn't even try, like a fake friend who is also curious to watch you fail.
He doesn't have an easy job, but it is doable. At least, try your best, don't just say a few stupid words and wait for the young, stupid, impressionable and devastated guy who just lost his wife make the situation even worse.

Somerset is a real fuckup in this movie. John Doe certainly found a great associate to deliver his plan.

[–] StinkyPoopyPants (2734) 4 months ago

Well he does say "If you kill him, he will win." But honestly, Mills just found out that not only was his beloved wife killed and beheaded but that his baby that he had no idea about was dead too. I don't know that there would be anything, anyone could have said to stop him from killing John Doe.

[–] Heisenberg (6389) 4 months ago

The words are:
"he will get the chair. Don't waste your life. Don't let him go that easily. Don't let him win."

Key part: he WILL get the chair. Why waste YOUR life for this piece of shit but gain nothing?

[–] Melton (2531) 4 months ago

Depends if that state has the death penalty.

[–] Heisenberg (6389) 4 months ago

Ok, I guess that is the only real caveat to it.
You are right.

[–] StinkyPoopyPants (2734) 4 months ago

I still don't think it would have mattered. Poor Mills was gone at that point. Ugh, horrible ending. Now I want to go watch that movie again just because it is such a good movie, lol.

Anyway, maybe this will make you feel better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5gw7ec4KyY

Enjoy! 😊

[–] Heisenberg (6389) 4 months ago

That is even more tragic!
1 he kills him for no good reason.
2 GP is not dead.

Thank God the real ending is not such a punch in the guts.

[–] ByTheVineyard (457) 5 months ago

Doe was already confessing his deeds, Somerset could have done nothing to stop Doe talking

It's a well made movie

[–] Druff (1484) 5 months ago

It's a fairy tale. Just let the writer tell his story and go along for the ride. Stop trying to fix everything so your little brain can handle it better.

[–] DavidM (336) 4 months ago

Other option was telling the SWATs in the helicopter to land and take Doe while he tries to distract Mills.

[–] spurtle467 (1509) 4 months ago

I don't think it was in Somerset's nature to tell a lie like that and I doubt such a lie would have been convincing enough to have worked anyway. John Doe is going to make sure his target is the right one. They know his attention to detail isn't going to lead to something as stupid as killing the wrong woman.

Only thing that could be done is to call for the back up to quickly come and de-escalate the situation while Somerset maybe makes more of a physical effort to get Mills not to fire the gun.