Not feeling any pain after being shot, not having any dirt or marks and have his jacket thoroughly in his place after countless of fights and dangerous situations, easily hanging to a cliff and outrunning a train crash? Can anyone provide some intelligent justification? Thanks!
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What's C.H.I.P.S. and in which situations did they not need to use guns? Also, what is the connection with Ryback from US2 here?
So Casey Ryback was like a super-trained killing machine, who still had all these major skills and abilities to combat terrorists without getting a scratch or a mark on himself, years after he's been retired to a cheff?
Or were all the terrorists just not too strong enough? But how well can soldiers or navy SEALS be trained in order to avoid feeling the pain after being shot by a powerful rifle in the shoulder (and even GETTING shot by a powerful rifle in the shoulder after his head was in a crossfire target), hanging to a cliff with one arm and running away from a crashing and exploding train? Not to mention, remaining totally uninjured afterwards?
And manage to persuade Porter, who often looks like a coward in many scenes, to assist and help him in his missions (Porter himself shot one terrorist with a handgun, nailed another one with an automatic weapon in a hostage cabin and defeated the lady terrorist in a rescue helicopter without too much effort). Hmm, I wonder if some of these terrorists were beaten too easily because they've managed to PANIC whilst Ryback remained calm and fearless throughout, even if his niece's life was in danger and with a threat of the whole of Washington being wiped out?
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You compared Ryback's handling of situations with those of John (not Jack) McClane's in Die Hard? Watch any of those 3 movies with Bruce Willis and notice one big difference. Look at how many times Bruce Willis gets hurt, feels pain and has blood all over him as he tries to escape from and/or confront terrorists. John McClane was never THAT invincible as Casey Ryback was in "Under Siege 2". And his confrontations involving fighting with terrorists were much longer and more balanced than Seagal's in US2.
Also, if Penn was so tough (as was shown with the "Pepper Spray" scene) how come he never really even got a scratch on Ryback or stood up so long in a final fight with him? Does the screenwriter and director of Under Siege 2 want to tell us that when you've been a highly trained navy SEAL who also happens to be a top-notch MARTIAL ARTS EXPERT, you can overcome large enemies and find a way out of dangerous situations easily? I still don't get how he survived hanging onto a cliff with one arm and managed to find a pick-up truck, get it running and catch up with the train, as well as all the "outrunning the train crash part at the end".
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".., you can overcome large enemies and find a way out of dangerous situations easily?"
What's so special about large enemies? Why would the physical size of the 'enemies' matter? Bruce Lee certainly wasn't "large" in the physical sense, but the largest man in the world would not have been able to beat him in combat (without a gun, that is).
So why would you NOT be able to 'overcome large enemies'? I don't see the logic in your argument.
And I don't think Ryback "found a way out of dangerous situation easily" in the movie - it would have been very easy for anyone, because they were all in a train. Just get out of train, and there - you are out of a 'dangerous situation' pretty easily.
He did a lot of stuff in the movie, but 'finding a way out' didn't seem to be one of them (more like 'finding a way through')
Actually Navy SEALs are trained in a lot of things especially withstanding a lot of pain from what I have heard. Anyways, you may want to stay focus when fighting with a knife then show the pain.
shareSeagal must have had it written into his contract that he never gets hurt or beat up in any of his movies. John McClane was human and was constantly afraid and in pain like ANYONE in real life would be in that situation, I don't care how much training someone has. Seagal is one of the worst actors in history anyway and would have been incapable of showing any type of emotion even if it was in the script.
shareEven Navy Seal Captains feel pain and can die. It was utterly ridiculous how he was able to take out 20+ terrorists on a train. He has his silly "porter" helping him of course. Usually Navy Seals can equal 3- 4 regular thugs on the battlefield with their tactics but 20? But when you are making the movie you can make yourself invincible...
shareCan anyone provide some intelligent justification?
Because Segal likes to portray himself as so hard hes untouchable, its just like his other movies. No one gets a hit in, you won't see him with a bloody nose or wincing in pain...because he won't allow it. I'm sure he has a hand in alot of his films, so he makes sure each charatcer he plays is ultra tough, almost to the point of being totally pain resistant (takes a stomach shot in OFJ, and still takes down Richie's gang without changing his facial expression)
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The only movie where the villain gets a few punches in and put up any real resistance to a Seagal beatdown is Screwface in MARKED FOR DEATH. I think it features the only instance on Seagal being successfully punched in the face. However he pays for his triumph quite dearly later on...
shareAre you people SERIOUSLY looking for logic or a sense of realism in a STEVEN FU CKING SEAGAL MOVIE??? Come on.....
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Once you realize the dude can bleed and can feel pain, then you know the situation is real and he can fail. So if he failed then the terrorist would win.
It's pretty boring that Ryback never really gets a challenge that hurts him, unlike John McClane who is far from invulnerable. Thankfully the villain provides the humor and wisecracks.
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