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Does the Blu Ray have better quality...


...than the DVD because the DVD has freaking terrible picture quality. During the dark scenes you almost can't tell what's going on.



S.F.W.

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Yes its better as is the sound, but in terms of darkness you can't help that it was shot that way. Watch it in dark room for better viewing. Sharper picture does help a little. Although one minor nitpick about Bluray, during his kills in the animal hall, a sfx is missing.

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Sorry Night Wolf... an "SFX"? Is that a special effects scene that's missing? Please explain. Thx.

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It means "sound effect." :)

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It means "sound effect." :)

No, it doesn't. NightWolf might have been trying to say that, but "sfx" refers to a visual special effect.

Anyway, sadly, it's not the first film that has lost sounds from the audio track in the shift to Bu-ray, and unfortunately it won't be the last.


Back on the original topic of the thread: I'm just watching this flick now, for the first time in HD, and it's definitely better than the DVD, but the dimness makes it such a struggle. I was wondering if the DVD had been mis-mastered, and that's what made it so dark, but it seems not. I'm glad they didn't blow the image out by over-brightening it, but for the life of me I can't see why Hyams chose to shoot it this way. I'm a fan of him as a visualist, and he's always so precise in how he wants things to look, so he must have intended this. But why on earth would he want his viewers to have to peer at the screen for most of the film?

This goes way beyond mood, and deep into dinge.


[Edited for typos. Oops.]



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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It's been used to refer to both--there's no universal code or anything--but in my experience "SFX" is used to mean "sound effects" much more often. (That experience being in post-production I should say.) It's definitely not wrong to use that abbreviation.

Yeah, it's funny, I never noticed until 'The Relic' but Hyams does seem to favor dim lighting: if it wouldn't naturally be there, it isn't there. 'Narrow Margin' had a lot of bits like that, and if I remember correctly the end of 'The Star Chamber' didn't go overboard trying to light that warehouse clearly. I kind of like it but I think he overdid it here a bit. Same with closeups of faces; he just uses that too often and by the end it doesn't have the impact it should. But what the hell, the movie's a lot of fun.

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It's just a really dimly lit movie by design. Seeing it on Blu-ray does help just because there's more detail, but you're not going to find it to be any brighter.

(Bummed to hear that about the SFX though, I had no idea.)

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Thanks for the help. Probably won't bother re-buying it.



S.F.W.

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Eh, I'd give it a shot if you can find it cheaply. Unless there's a reissue I don't know about the DVD came from the LaserDisc master, which means that for a DVD it's really pretty awful (LD masters were just not designed for that). Add the dim lighting to that and details just wash right out. The Blu-ray isn't brighter, but I think you'll find you're able to see more.

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Oh, thanks for the clarification. I'll see if I can find it then.



S.F.W.

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