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Why the Prequels were different than the OT (and not because of CGI)


While we're all aware that the story style is a little bit different in the original trilogy compared to the prequels, there was a hidden factor in play, one that you'd only find out if you looked into the history behind the OT vs. the prequels.

It's not disputed that Lucas is a very creative guy, and had a unique vision of a galaxy full of wonders. His hand is in all of the first six films. What you didn't see, is that while he has a good set of ideas, he isn't always good at implementing it. He had equally creative people helping him with his scripts and movie-making behind the scenes back in the 70s and 80s. I remember reading that the original cut of "A New Hope" was awful, and it was because of his [at the time] wife that the re-cut was the awesome film we got in the theaters. She knew he had a good idea, but she cleaned it up a bit, as did others.

The problem was, when Lucas was writing the scripts and putting together the film prequels, he didn't have those creative people around anymore to help him make the stories better. He also tried appealing more to children than to whole families. He didn't have a lot of creative, smart people at his side, helping him come up with better ways to tell his story than what he had. So while the prequels aren't the worst Star Wars films ever made (the ST got the crown on that one) they aren't as good as they could have been.

What should be noted, however, is that many people still like the prequels and still talk about them, and those three films launched inspiration for a lot of other Star Wars-related ideas. We finally got to see a newer, freer galaxy the way it was before the Empire took over. We got to see a world where there were many Jedi, not just a few hidden in the wilderness. We got to see a rich, colorful, more expanded galaxy than even the OT could show off.

It led to many more books, more interesting sci-fi film ideas, and even an new franchise took off in the early 2000s relating to Star Wars (Knights of the Old Republic). The extensive use of interesting costumes made other films step up their game when showing off costuming talents to the audience. People even got to see new ways to do space battles and new starships. The very first all-CGI character was introduced (much as people hate him). How many movie studios do you know about that have been able to achieve the same thing? The best part was finding out there was more than one way to show how Jedi and Sith look and fight. Nobody had ever seen a double-bladed lightsaber before Episode I, or seen more than four force-users in all of the OT.

Can you say the same about the ST? Not only did they not break new ground in anything, they did more to attempt to destroy the franchise and piss off the fans than the prequels ever did.

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I always thought it was well known that Marcia Lucas was instrumental in providing Star Wars with the human touch that gave it much of its universal appeal. For example: the "kiss for good luck" from Leia just before she and Luke swung across the chasm to escape the storm troopers.

Without all of those small touches, Star Wars wouldn't have felt as complete.

And I agree, the prequels did bring a lot to pop culture, while the sequels did not much of anything to break new ground.

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Great post. Lucas has creative ideas, but he needs honest feedback instead of people kissing up to him all day. It's very difficult for a creative person to judge their own work objectively.

Another issue is that Lucas is likely stubborn and may not be open to feedback.

Disney SW is the original trilogy repeated to death.

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He also didn't direct Empire Strikes Back, which is the best movie in the series.

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It's insane how much you nutjobs bring up the sequels. You can't just like and talk about your beloved prequels, you always drag the sequels into the conversation Do you know why you do that? Because it burns your bitter asses up that the sequels are better received than something Lucas made - and the facts prove that:

The Phantom Menace 52% & 59% at RT and 6.5 at IMDB.
Attack of the Clones 65% & 56% and RT 6.5 at IMDB.
Revenge of the Sith 80% & 66% and RT 7.5 at IMDB.
Avg. 65%, % 60%, and 6.8.

The Force Awakens 93% & 85% at RT and 7.8 at IMDB.
The Last Jedi 91% % 42% at RT and 6.9 at IMDB.
The Rise of Skywalker 52% & 86% at RT and 6.5 at IMDB.
Avg. 79%, 71%, and 7.

4. Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens $2,069,521,700
14. Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi $1,332,698,830
33. Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker $1,074,149,279
44. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace $1,027,082,707
75. Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith $868,390,560
146. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones $653,779,970

It drives you absolutely mad with anger.

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If you want a very detailed historic research on the making of both the OT & PT (including all the personal struggles Lucas was going through with divorcing his wife at the time aka Marcia who helped him edit the OT final cuts) then I recommend the book 'The Secret History Of Star Wars' by Michael Kaminski. It definitely gave me a new view on the production of the prequels and Lucas' motivation while making them.

Otherwise regarding Lucas' decision to make the PT... imagine if he didn't? So much lore, video games, novels would be lost in time (not to forget novels were being released immediately after Return of the Jedi ended in the cinema slowly making its way to creating the Expanded Universe). Say what you will yes about its CGI and acting at times, I am so glad how much extra Star Wars content we got after 1999 (including the toy line sales which for those who remember the TPM toy aisles were HUGE compared to when Disney released TFA).

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If they did nothing else, the prequels at least gave us a chance to see what the galaxy was like before the Empire took over, when there were many Jedi around. It was interesting to see how different things were. The prequels also inspired many books, games, toys, costumes, and even the "Knights of the Old Republic" franchise, which still lives on today with "Star Wars the Old Republic."

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The prequels broke the mold and expanded the Star Wars universe immensely. The OT focuses heavily on the main characters and it doesn't feel like there is a wide galaxy out there. The prequels have John Williams' best work in the franchise. Each of the 3 films has a memorable score. Nothing in the ST comes close to Duel of the Fates, Across the Stars, or Battle of the Heroes. I honestly couldn't distinguish ST music (other than established Star Wars themes and cues) from any other action movie.

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