It is the worst pro-abortion garbage that has ever been done. I hate it. It is a shame that I come from the same country as Lasse Hallström whose films always contains obscenitys. I will never see a film done by Lassy Hallström or with Michael Caine or with him that plays Spiderman. I gave this pro-murder film a 1 because thats what it deserves.
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Murder? ...People have their reasons. Oy!
I liked the movie, by the way. It wasn't pro-life mush, it was closer to reality.
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Hey self rightious a**hole,
I guess you think the girl with the botched abortion deserved to die and Rose should have had her father's child.
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hey it's his opinion . I hate when pepole can't just except the opinions of othters. he hated the movie big deal. this movie is not with out flaw
or agenda. alot of pepole pre judge this film becuse they think abortion is wrong and it gets in the way of thier true jugment on how good the film is
That being said alot of pepole that are in favor of abortion give this movie way to much leway and fail to see it's flaws . and tend to make it better than it is.
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No, he/she thinks she shouldn't have gotten an abortion in the first place. Duh!
shareI wouldn't say I hate this film, but I do dislike it. In the movie emotions were muted at times before something tragic happens. Candy and Olive seemed unusually calm hearing news of Wally's injuries. The scuffle between Jack and Mr. Rose were made light-hearted inappropriately by Peaches's comment. Characters in the movie accept life as it comes along and either seem to be in denial of horrible things that had happened (Candy and Wally acted as if nothing has happened after the abortion,) or find the worst way out (Mr. Rose committed suicide after being stabbed by his daughter, Dr. Larch didn't take precaution beforehand in preventing ether overdose, as well as lying to the children and having Buster lie about Fuzzy's death, lying about Homer's heart condition, and creating fake credentials for Homer.) I also don't see how the Cider House Rules tie in with the rest of the movie. Mr. Rose raped his daughter, and there he was talking about not needing to follow rules made by others.
There's no depiction of the mental and emotional consequences of abortion in women like Candy and Rose. Rose stabbed his father and ran away, and that's the last we will ever see of her. I also would like to see more character depiction of the women, such as Candy and the nurses in the orphanage, as women are a major part of this movie in giving birth or having abortion. Candy was depicted as this air head who has no ambition in life except to fool around with Homer, help out with Daddy, and wait for her boyfriend whom she is cheating on to come home from the war. The actress playing Rose did let a quality of strength and beauty shine through the character despite her circumstances. I also would like to see how Buster deal with the deaths at the orphange (lying about Fuzzy's death and discovering Dr. Larch's body.)
Would the people who are so against this film feel the same way if Rose Rose had, say, been 12 years old? If she had been a child and been raped by her father, let alone any other man. Surely you pro life people could accept abortion if a child was pregnant and the conception against her will.
Pro - Choice is the way forward. Get over it.
*I saw in your eyes that you hate the world, I hate it too...*
I wouldn't say that pro-choice is the way "forward" but abortions in certain circumstances makes a little more sense.
~I'm not okay, and you're not okay. But that's okay.~
"Characters in the movie accept life as it comes along and either seem to be in denial of horrible things that had happened (Candy and Wally acted as if nothing has happened after the abortion,) or find the worst way out (Mr. Rose committed suicide after being stabbed by his daughter, Dr. Larch didn't take precaution beforehand in preventing ether overdose, as well as lying to the children and having Buster lie about Fuzzy's death, lying about Homer's heart condition, and creating fake credentials for Homer.) I also don't see how the Cider House Rules tie in with the rest of the movie. Mr. Rose raped his daughter, and there he was talking about not needing to follow rules made by others.
There's no depiction of the mental and emotional consequences of abortion in women like Candy and Rose. Rose stabbed his father and ran away, and that's the last we will ever see of her. I also would like to see more character depiction of the women, such as Candy and the nurses in the orphanage, as women are a major part of this movie in giving birth or having abortion. Candy was depicted as this air head who has no ambition in life except to fool around with Homer, help out with Daddy, and wait for her boyfriend whom she is cheating on to come home from the war. The actress playing Rose did let a quality of strength and beauty shine through the character despite her circumstances. I also would like to see how Buster deal with the deaths at the orphange (lying about Fuzzy's death and discovering Dr. Larch's body.)"
This is not a 2 hour movie you were looking for, but rather a 6 hour "Made for TV" mini series LOL. "Lying" about Fuzzy's death was an act of great kindness and empathy by Dr Larch, in order to protect the younger kids from yet another harsh reality of life. Loss and abandonment was something these kids were too familiar with at such a young age, something that most of us today sitting in the comfort of own homes with families would never fully understand.
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Dear, this movie is about LIFE! Life is not perfect and people have flaws and there are tragedies and miracles! If you fail to see how this film displays humanity in this right, then you are living in a fantasy world. Every actor deserves accolades. Hallstrom and Irving 's Cider House Rules is a wonderful film.
shareAre you talking to me? Am I "Dear"? I hope you're referring to the poster I was referring to...
shareI was replying to the original poster, tbs.
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And what is so bad about the film being about abortion?
Like the wind in the buffalo grass we belonged here, we would always belong here. - Spirit
I do like that they showed much more about the orphanage than the abortion mill part of it but I was disappointed at the end that Homer changed his views on "playing God."
~I'm not okay, and you're not okay. But that's okay.~
Get over yourself and open a freaking book!
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I think Rose Rose had every right to abort the baby. Any girl that concieves from her father should have that right. Then the bastard should be made a wife to every prisoner in the system!!!
shareAs a right to life person, I understand the OP's feelings, but I have mixed feelings about the movie. Part of it was very moving and quite beautiful, but I was disappointed that the message leaned much more on the abortion side than to the pro-life view that Homer had. In fact, I couldn't understand why he was so obsessed with the Kandy character played by Charlize Theron. Yes, she's beautiful, but after all he met her when she came to the clinic to have an abortion. So why was he so in awe of this flawed woman? In the book he and Kandy had a baby together eventually, but this was not mentioned at all in the movie. It was also ironic justice-if you look at it that way, that Kandy and the bf played by Paul Rudd would probably never be able to have a child later due to his war injuries-after all they had aborted the child they had previously conceived and she strongly stated she hoped to have children some day. The stories of the orphans were very touching, so I must say the movie had it's good points and it's bad ones in my humble opinion.
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"In fact, I couldn't understand why he was so obsessed with the Kandy character played by Charlize Theron. Yes, she's beautiful, but after all he met her when she came to the clinic to have an abortion. So why was he so in awe of this flawed woman?"
Flawed women? How self righteous of you. Maybe Homer was "in awe" of her because unlike you, he was not so judgmental of another human being going through a crisis. It should have been obvious from watching the film that Homer was not the self righteous type, he seemed to be a genuinely caring person with empathy.
I marked the 2 comments below as IGNORE. Then I tried to go ahead and add them back on, and I was unable to. All I have to say is I have a right to my opinion. I don't really care what you think.
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If you think a girl who was raped and impregnanted by her father is comitting MURDER by getting an abortion... well, then my friend, I gotta tell you I am ashamed to from the same country as YOU.
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