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Birdie was kind of a little bitch.


On the surface, she seemed to be (and was prob'ly intended to be) a very endearing character. But with frequent viewings, you can also see she was kind of a kook and VERY condescending. Everything was "deary this" and "deary that" and "ask me for money because I'm very rich." But the worst was her "cest la vie" attitude when watching Kathleen worry about her crumbling business. When Kathleen is desperately looking for answers, Birdie was a little snide about it. "Oh Birdie, what would mom have done?" "Well lets ask her, shall we?" And every time she looked at Kathleen, she had this "girrrl, you goin' DOWN" look on her face.

I didn't know whether to love her or hate her.

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She's supposed to be a kook, not someone knowingly mean. Her deepest moment was actually when she saw that flake Miranda's sign, showing that she dumped them and had the signing at Fox books. The look on her face showed that she was calmly registering the state of things.

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she's just a little out of touch, not really mean.


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I think she was supposed to be an eccentric. We are to assume she was kooky but nice best friend to Kathleen's mother in their prime and that she was probably here at the the shop's beginnings.
So yeah, she did not help much. But I'm not sure there was actually much she could do. She says she is well off, but it's probably her life savings: even if her money could have made the shop go through another month it was just putting off the evil day, the superstore would win anyway.

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I interpreted her behaviour as someone trying to remain strong during those problems so Kathleen could be strong too. If Birdie would become very sad and depressed, then how would that help Kathleen?

And of course, she was old and different. At her age, you tend to look at life in a different way.

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Birdie didn't have to 'become very sad and depressed'----just supportive and sympathetic.

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Yeah-I agree that she was too flippant when Kathleen asked what her mother would have done...and Birdie takes out the locket and listens-for Kathleen, this was one of her saddest moments and Birdie's flip response just didn't work for me.

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Really? I didn't get that vibe from her at all. In fact she reminded me of my grandma.

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What a harsh description of a wonderful character. I love her! She has a strong, witty personality, and clearly has an interesting and colorful past. I don't think she was ever condescending to Kathleen. She knew closing the store was a decision Kathleen had to make on her own. As her 'surrogate mother', she was treating her as the adult she was, instead of like a child. It didn't matter what anyone else 'would have done.' Only Kathleen could make that decision. I think she handled that situation perfectly.

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No--I wouldn't say 'perfectly'. I think if Birdie just spoke to Kathleen person to person, with suggestions or sympathy, which would be understandable under the circumstances --than that would've been better than that ditzy 'opening the locket' routine. And at Birdie's apartment, she says to Kathleen something like 'you're entering the future with...nothing.' I like Jean Stapleton and she looked spry, but I think the 'bitchy' side to her just didn't work---I gotta agree with the OP, (and blame the screenplay.)

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Oh, I disagree! She wasn't meant to be a friend; as Kathleen said, she's her surrogate mother. The locket scene demonstrates that she is always there for her, making her mother a gentle approving presence in her life while trusting Kathleen to make the difficult choice of what to do with the shop because only she can. I think this is a girl thing-often when we are asking advise we are really "throwing it into the void" as Kathleen said at a different point. When she has her support network of surrogate mother and her mother's memory pulled around her, then she makes the grown up decision to close the shop.

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I agree. I also think the interaction with the locket might also be a symbol of Birdies friendship with Kathleen's mother. She's talking to her dead friend there in the same joking way she would've if she were still alive. By saying that her mom doesn't know what to do either she is giving Kathleen the power to make the decision all on her own. Kind of a "choose your own path" thing.



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