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When the show jumped the shark....


It's prettt hard to believe in season 7 that Hyde's dad is African American. I mean....what?

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True but the ensuing action & relationships I think were handled well/developed naturally.

And while obviously Eric's then Kelso's departure disrupted the dynamics & tone in S8 I didn't really feel it truly jumped the shark and fell apart until the end, maybe the very last 4-5 episodes?

Storylines aside, allowing for character growth etc. those last few episodes just felt very rushed and forced.
I think the Jackie & Fez storyline (& its elements) was ridiculous.
Out of nowhere Fez is a highly successful player? Everything wrapped up neatly in literally the final 2 epsiodes? Nope.

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I just caught one of the last episodes of season 4... entitled 'That 70s Musical"....

I understand why they did it.. I believe they had fun making it... but it bombed for me.



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That 70's Musical is a little too early. Thanks to the writing, storylines, time floe and very developed main characters there were plenty of great shows much later than season 4.

I agree that it was when Hyde's real father shows up. The dynamics started to change about that time. They are all young adults by then so there had to be changes.

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I disagree with whjones. That 70's Musical was the beginning of a bad thing. By the time Brooke Shields leaves the show, Tanya Roberts comes in and out, my cat stopped watching. By the time Tommy Chong returns and repeats the stupid line 'do I know you?', the live studio audience stopped laughing and they had to resort to a laugh track to indicate where the jokes are. By the time Hyde's dad Tim Reid shows up, even the laugh track lost it's enthusiasm. I'm at the end of season 7 and it feels like I am watching a rotting a carcass.

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I won't argue with you. To each his own. It could even have been when they did the episode that made fun of "jump the shark" as well.

If I'm not mistaken it was at about the same time as the Musical. It did take a bit of a turn there. Just different.

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By the end of season 7, I questioned why I was sitting on my sofa watching people sitting on their sofas watching TV. The writers didn't know what to do with Bob anymore. Don Stark looked bored or ticked off during his brief appearances. Debra Jo Rup also seemed ready to close the book on her character. The show has nothing to do with the 70s anymore. They used to talk vintage automobiles, music, microwave ovens, Beta machines and their future... After a while, all they talked about was who was sleeping with who and laugh at their own stupidity. I might be wrong, but Wilmer Valderramathe and Kurtwood Smith were the only 2 who made the effort to keep awake. Honestly, I liked the beginning of the show show and respect the actors and crew who made it happen, but since it didn't stay true to it's own idea, 4 seasons was the most it should have gone.

Normally I am not a fussy guy. I rated Plan 9 From Outer Space as a nine! That's all I got to say.




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Okay, so season 8 had saving grace. Josh Meyers filled in with exuberance. The show also welcomed in some iconic actors and actresses from the 70s. The last episode had class.

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Meyers was horrible. He just didn't fit, it was forced.

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I liked Meyers. He almost reminded me that we were watching a show that took place in the 1970s. His very walk and tight clothes reminded me of the disco strut... and the way he flipped his hair and resembled Andy Gibb. I think he was a fine choice for casting.

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I don't see any one single event killing the show. It just gradually got worse. Considering there are very few really good comedy shows on tv at any given time, the show wasn't terrible even at the end compared to many other shows of the general time frame.

However, the show's demise was a combination of many things, some already mentioned...

Topher's Eric started looking a lot older than the rest of the "kids" yet he became a bigger pussy than ever. His character became a lot less funny and a lot more annoying. As good as everyone else was, the show did revolve around his young scrawny underdog life. When he suddenly looked 30 and wasn't funny anymore, it was impossible to have him as the main character and have the show still be very funny.

***I would say that Topher/Eric leaving had a negative affect if he had left in the first 5 seasons, but because of what I mentioned above, it probably helped the show.***

Fresh and funny script ideas starting to dry up.

Bringing in "Cousin Oliver" characters to try to freshen the show.

The way Kelso's character evolved.

Kelso and the original Lorrie leaving.

More time spent at the record store, muffler shop, etc. and less time at the Foreman house, especially the basement.

They all grew up.

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