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Sauron has yet to reveal his deadliest servant

posted 4 years ago by MovieChatUser497 (18943)
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The Witch King of Angmar

Even though he was in the last 2 parts.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12878) 4 years ago

I rather enjoyed the part where the Witch King calls Eowyn a fool (mistaking her for a male soldier) and says "no man can kill me!" and she whips off her helmet and says "I am no man!" and stabs him in the helmet, annihilating him :D.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

Eh that was stupid and it makes absolutely no sense how Merry was able to wound it, but of course if Jackson went by the book that wouldn’t be a problem.

The witch king is built up as this big ultimate badass and goes out like a bitch.

[–] ProgsReturn (1857) 4 years ago

In the book, the Witch King was slain by Optimus Prime.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

Quit trolling, it is against group rules

[–] ProgsReturn (1857) 4 years ago

Sorry, I ment the BBC radio adaption.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

Quit trolling it’s against group rules

[–] ProgsReturn (1857) 4 years ago

This coming from someone complaining there's not enough diversity in a WW1 movie.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

So you’re admitting to trolling?

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12878) 4 years ago

Sounds like you were reading that particular "book" on fanfiction.net. Not a very good place to find decent literature, but there are a few non-canon story gems hidden in there.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12878) 4 years ago

Merry wounded the Witch King first? I'm gonna have to get the movie out again and re-watch it :D.

[–] ProgsReturn (1857) 4 years ago

Yup.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

It's explained in the book how he was able to do that, in the movie it doesn't make one lick of sense.

[–] Ace_Spade (9458) 4 years ago

That sounds like fun! Great movie!

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

He had a dunedain dagger, he found it back in the Shire

[–] Moonglum9 (10851) 4 years ago

I think what he meant by that was more along the lines that he was going to start leading the war effort against men as opposed to riding around in secret trying to find Frodo.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

But that’s not what he said, he seemed to be leading the war effort previously when they attacked osgilliarth

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Osgiliath

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

I don’t care if I misspelled it, I will not edit it with the correct spelling. Also I’m guessing you are conceding to my OP thank you

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Others said you were a troll, though I agreed with you somewhere once, a long time ago. I think they're right, you're more troll than sensible and I'm going to Ignore you. It will clean up the LOTR boards for a start.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

Expressing my opinion makes me a troll? Not everyone thinks like you do, get over it snowflake. You have a right to your opinion you don’t have a right to have everyone agree with you

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

You're contaminating the LOTR board by constantly bashing the movies, you're spoiling it for those who might be interested in seeing them rather than read a massive book filled with poetry and lyrics to songs that will never see the light of day (that's why I don't like the LOTR books).

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

Oh I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to have a not so good opinion of it. And the book is far superior to the movie, the movie didn't respect the book one bit and turned the characters into complete idiots. I realize that reading is tough for someone like you but that's not my problem. It's also not my problem is you don't like my opinion, get over it and grow up.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Then why are the movies so highly-regarded?

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

What part of my opinion aren't you getting?

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

I don't care what a book purist like you says, it's an ADAPTATION. Of COURSE there are gonna be changes!

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

The changes should at least make sense in LOTR they didn’t. The cartoon version was more faithful to the source material and that only covered half of it

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

I wasn't bothered by it.

I'm guessing you once loved the LOTR movies as I do, but then read the books and went WTF as to what was different, right?

Well, after I saw FOTR in the cinema, I went and bought LOTR in a single big book and read the whole thing, except perhaps the appendices, so I could prepare myself for what was to come. Masses of detail, and I particularly loved how a couple of the book descriptions for scenes were carried over into the movies perfectly. I just didn't care much for the "songs", so to speak. Some stuff in the book was great, like Sauron's thoughts the moment he sensed the One Ring in Mount Doom and how he was all FUCK at his own fate and GET THE FUCKING NAZGUL OVER THERE, FAST!!! Also, how Grima threw the Palantir out of the window of Orthanc intending to brain Gandalf, and I did like the whole Scouring of the Shire, so there was that.

The books are good, but not something I'd read even once a year, as Christopher Lee did.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

I didn't like how the movie began a lot of the subplots from the book yet didn't finish them so we end up with plot holes. I didn't like how the movie had bad pacing, I didn't like how the movie turned the characters into complete idiots. The movie is for the most part trash, I did like the segments with Frodo, Sam and Gollum but that only took up about 20 minutes of screentime.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

You must've read the books long before, then? If so, OK, but I like the movies more :)

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 4 years ago

I prefer movies I watch to make sense which is why I don't like the LOTR movie, the book doesn't have the issues I pointed out.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

As I said, didn't bother me.

[–] Volley (3386) 2 years ago

I always found Gandalf's words here a little odd. The Witch King of Angmar already revealed himself to Frodo and several members of the Fellowship when he took point at Weathertop. Angmar was also likely spotted flying around Mordor in the Two Towers, surveying the area and showing up at Osgiliath ready to take the ring from Frodo.

Angmar later has the capability to scare Gandalf and break his staff with a fire sword. Very cool, but only Extended and not Theatrical. Then Angmar rushes away when Rohan shows up, as if he is going to head to the front lines to help the Orcs, but then he goes missing, even in wide angle shots, never to be seen again until well after the Haradrim advance.

Deadliest servant indeed, his disappearing act is top notch.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

And yeah seriously he went out like a little bitch. That was the lamest fight scene ever. Sure it wasn't exactly anything epic in the book but the book wasn't meant to be so action heavy, the film was. In books exposition is interesting, action is boring. The inverse is true for film.