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How many falsehoods in this film?


OK, this was a very watchable film, great acting by Denzel, and my students really liked it. But can anybody comment on these apparent stated or implied falsehoods in this highly inaccurate movie?

1) Carter was sent to reformatory at about age 11 defending himself from a child molester - FALSE, Carter was sent their at 14 for robbing and beating a man.

2) Carter served admirably in U.S. Army - FALSE, Carter was kicked out after four court martials on minor charges.

3) Carter was re-imprisoned only for escaping the reformatory - FALSE, after his release, Carter was arrested for street muggings, pled guilty to robbing and beating a woman, and served four years in the penitentiary.

4) No incriminating evidence was found in his car - FALSE, police found (or claimed they found) a shotgun shell and bullet casing. Later, these were found to be the same caliber as the murder weapons.

5) Carter was harrassed for years by a white racist cop who hated Carter since he first went to the reformatory - FALSE, that cop never existed. The lead dectective in the murders had never met Carter before the shootings (and had a decent reputation).

Not that these inaccuracies prove Carter and/or John Artis guilty of those kilings, but they cast doubt on both him and this movie. Any other comments or other falsehoods in this film?

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Leave it to Hollywood...

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#5 was really just dramatic license (if that's the right term). Yes, there were many cops involved with his various problems with the law, but for the purposes of the movie and for the audience, they combined them into a composite character. I don't really have a huge problem with that.

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The fight between Carter and Giardello - in reality, Giardello kicked Carter's ass. As the IMDB trivia for this movie points out, Giardello actually sued the filmmakers for defamation over the scene in the film.

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"The fight between Carter and Giardello - in reality, Giardello kicked Carter's ass."

Kicked his ass may be an overstatement. I don't really know, I wasn't there. But in any case it wasn't a win by knock-out, which is what I would consider kicking ass. It was a win by decision. Unanimous by the judges. But apparently other boxing experts in attendance at the time had it down as a 3-1 split.

In any case, the movie did take liberties which is too bad.

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It was stated in the film that the movie was "fictionalized" when I saw the DVD. So I expected the filmmakers to dramatized many events in Rubin Carter's life. But I never realized that the audience were completely duped.

Myth #1
Hurricane Carter was "wrongfully convicted of a crime he didn't commit," and he's been "exonerated."


Hurricane Carter and his co-accused, John Artis, have never been found "not guilty" of the Lafayette Grill Murders. They were twice convicted, and twice the convictions were set aside on the grounds that they didn't get a fair trial. The State of New Jersey decided not to re-try them a third time because so much time had passed, and withdrew the indictments against them.

Myth #2
Carter was framed because he "was well-known for his incendiary voice in the civil rights movement."


It's amazing how many journalists have repeated Carter's claim that he was "well known for his views on black self-defense," or "known to the Paterson police for his civil rights activities," or that "he held a reputation as a black militant in racially tense Paterson," when there is zero evidence that Hurricane Carter was an activist, or that he even lifted a finger for the civil rights movement. This bogus claim is central to Carter's accusation that he was framed by the police, but it's gone unchecked and unchallenged for thirty years.

Myth # 3
Carter was framed by racist, corrupt police and prosecutors. "His temperament, his background, and the color of his skin made him the perfect scapegoat."
This claim is frequently made, but is not proven. Carter and his defenders present a one-sided view of events and haven't told you about the evidence against Carter and Artis. This website, on the other hand, demonstrates that the evidence Carter provides to "prove" he was harassed and framed, is bogus. He changes dates and makes false and misleading statements but his paranoid version of events has been taken at face value. The movie The Hurricane shows Carter being railroaded by one racist cop -- this is pure Hollywood hokum. The Canadians did not "uncover... evidence that he had been framed by corrupt officials," and neither did anyone else.


Myth: #4
"The case against Carter was thick with racism and thin on evidence." Carter and Artis were railroaded by an all-white jury.


During the jury selection phase of the first trial, the prosecution and the defense examined a staggering 377 jurors. The defense used up all of their challenges (exercising the right to refuse someone for jury duty.). The prosecution only used eight of their challenges. The first jury included one black man, although his name was not drawn for the final deliberations. "All-white" doesn't necessarily mean "all-racist." The second jury, drawn from a jury pool of 250, included two blacks. The defense gave all the potential jurors a list of over 40 questions to test them on their racial attitudes. Anyone who expressed prejudice during the jury selection process was instantly excluded from the jury by the judge. Even so, Carter and Artis were still re-convicted.

Myth #5
Carter and Artis passed lie detector tests.

In his book, The Sixteenth Round, Carter quotes Sgt. McGuire (the officer who gave the tests), as saying, "Both of them are clean. They had nothing to do with the crime." In the book Hurricane, by James Hirsch, McGuire is quoted as saying, "he didn't participate in these crimes, but he may know who was involved." The actual report states, "This subject was attempting deception to all the pertinent questions. And was involved in this crime."

Myth #6
Like the Bob Dylan song explains, Carter and Artis were convicted on the word of Bello and Bradley, who were thieves and liars. And the surviving shooting victim, the one with "one dyin' eye," said "[Carter] ain't the guy."


Al Bello, the eyewitness who says he saw Carter and Artis fleeing the scene of the crime, was indeed a lookout man for a burglary. But his eyewitness testimony helped police track down Carter's car minutes after the crime. There was other evidence linking Carter to the crime. Even Carter and Artis's lawyers admitted there was a "mountain of incriminating evidence" against them. At trial, Willie Marins, the surviving shooting victim in the Dylan song, said he did not know if Carter and Artis were the killers.

Myth #7
Carter and Artis had "rock solid" alibis for the time of the murders.


Actually, they've got several -- take your pick. When Carter and Artis were first questioned, they gave conflicting versions of their activities that night. When Carter wrote his autobiography, The Sixteenth Round, he gave another version. James S. Hirsch reports a different alibi for Carter in the book Hurricane. At the second trial, four of Carter's alibi witnesses from the first trial testified that Carter asked them to lie.

Myth #8
Carter was stopped by the police only because he was DWB -- Driving While Black.


Carter claims that when Sgt. Capter stopped him, Capter said, "Awww, *beep* Hurricane, I didn't know it was you" (as shown in the movie). This is false. Sgt. Capter and his partner were looking specifically for Carter and his car because it matched the description of the getaway car given by two eyewitnesses. But Bob Dylan and Hollywood fell for Carter's version.

Myth #9
John Artis was about to go to college on an athletic scholarship
when he was arrested for the murders.


As the 1987 prosecutor's brief states: "John Artis had been out of high school for two years at the time of the murders in June 1966. He was not arrested until October 1966 and he had not begun college at that point. There was no evidence that he ever had submitted any papers towards college enrollment. There was no evidence to show that, at the time of the murders, John Artis had a college scholarship..." In fact, John Artis had been drafted into the Army. This is not pertinent to the murders, but just like Myth #10, it's something the defense keeps insisting upon.

Myth #10
Hurricane Carter was "at the peak" of his career, "slated to contend" or "about to challenge" for the world middleweight boxing title when he was arrested.


Carter might have been hoping to re-challenge for the championship, but his career was on a downhill slide. Then-world champion, Dick Tiger, beat him like a gong the year before the murders. After that, Carter had nine more boxing matches and he lost five of them.

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Why would a man, or anyone fight so hard for so long, if he was guilty?

Why was he unable to obtain a fair trial in 67' or '76?

More importantly, why were people willing to give their time, their money and their heart and soul to help his man in his fight?

Say what you want, judge the man if you wish, but don't you hunk you may want to look at his friends? Do you have anyone that would defend you in such a way?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubin_Carter

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"Why would a man, or anyone fight so hard for so long, if he was guilty?"

Yeah, true. I mean there's so many other things he could be doing while serving a life sentence. Why waste time trying to get out?


"More importantly, why were people willing to give their time, their money and their heart and soul to help his man in his fight? "

Because many people are gullible, and most people like having a cause to fight for. A black man railroaded by the white justice system for the crime of being outspoken? There's no shortage of liberal-minded white folks salivating for that kind of cause. Gives them a chance to show just how fair-minded and morally superior they are, while feeling like they're fighting for a just cause.

It's an ignorant question. Human history is replete with examples involving hundreds of thousands of people fighting for a cause they deeply believe in, which is wrong nonetheless. Nazism would be one example - revolutionary Communism another. Lots of people fight for stupid things all the time - their numbers and their dedication don't make them right.

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This movie murders the truth.Evidence of Carter's guilt is strong.I bought into his racist frame-up claims until seeing Cal Deal's website.

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Thanx for your post. very interesting and informative. I hate it when Hollywood lies and twists these stories and misinforms people. Same thing they did with the
Butler movie, and others. I always try to find information on what really happened whenever they release a "based on true story" or "true events".

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"Giardello?" Yeah like the mob didnt have anything to do with THAT decision.

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In his book,Carter admits Giardello won.

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Shut up, the man did nothing and deserved to be the champ. I hate racist people trying to hate on a good story

My Sig: Nothing Here.

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survivor are u serious??? It's not racist to call it like it is. This man is piece of garbage, and the only reason he was let out of prison was because of racial politics

"God Bless The USA"

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You see, here on the IMDb Hurricane board, anyone who points out inaccuracies in the film and insinuates that Carter might have actually been guilty is a racist. However you can take what I say with a grain of salt - because I am clearly a racist for pointing this out.

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Are you serious? How is clarifying inaccuracies racism? If you want to bury your head in the sand and hold this pathetic human being on a pedestal then that's up to you but don't accuse people of being racists for point out this movies inaccuracies. This movie tried to make him out to be a good person and he wasn’t. Is anyone saying the police officer’s were right…hell no but the people who wrote this movie tried to sway the audience’s opinion by twisting the truth around. Even the people who supported him turned their back on him once they realized what a scumbag he was. And for the record, I would say the same thing if he were black, white, Hispanic, Italian, who cares. Just because he was black doesn’t mean the person who’s calling him out to be what he is a racist. Learn the meaning of the word before you start throwing it around.

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Carter's acquittal survived an appeal to the Full Bench of the US Supreme Court, the majority of whom were appointed by Republican Presidents. The prosecution case had holes you could drive a truck through.

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However,he was never found not guilty,he was released on technicalities.

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Polygraphs never prove anything anyway. Did you get your facts from that crappy website set up to defend the honor of Patricia valentine?

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No, I did tons of research since yesterday after viewing the film for the first time at my cousins request.
I just merely did it out of free time and curiosity.
The film was great! Denzel is brilliant.

But you would be fairly ignorant to believe he is innocent. Check yourself. I was blown away.

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Polygraphs do not prove anything,but that website certainly does.Read how many contradictions there are in Carter & Artis' alibis.Carter contradicted himself several times.Bello & Bradley made similar statements while 75 miles apart.In the movie,Patricia Valentine is potrayed as an old woman,she was only 22 at the time.That's one of several lies told by this movie.

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The man did nothing but cold blooded murder & lost his one title shot, by his own admission.I am not racist,& am sick & tired of weenies like you using racism every time anyone criticises this punk or Obama.

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This movie is completely ficticious!Well acted,but it's basically the same as carters book.

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>< yea this movie was less enjoyable when I found out how much they made up. If i ignore the whole "Based on a true story" thing. its still a great movie.

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While I love Denzel's performance, and boxing, this movie was such a disapointment to me after I did a little research.

As has been stated before, it is o.k. to combine some characters into one and all to tie a story together, this movie really took a lot of liberties in portraying Carter as much more of a saint and good fighter than he truly was! this is what ruined the movie for me, I don't look back on it as even being a good movie any longer because of the inaccuracies they portrayed in it, at least Denzel was incredible as usual, but had it ben a different actor playing Carter, this movie most likely would have been average at best...probably below average IMO!

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This film was pure crap. So manipulative and deceptive.

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I've always been a fan of Denzel Washington, and still am. When I saw the trailer for this, I was definitely hooked on seeing it, to see (at least what I believed at the time), an innocent man railroaded, then freed. Indeed, he did a great job playing as Rubin Carter. Unfortunately, the reality is, that much of it was deliberately distorted for artistic license. No matter how much one wants to believe differently, the reality doesn't change, and will not. I was disgusted to learn that I had been duped. I actually believed it, until I found out differently. (Most are not aware that the film's producers and screen writers got the story entirely from Carter himself. Only his side of it, without seeking out other peoples' side of the story. Of course he's going to twist it in his favor.) It is as follows:

Movie: Rubin Carter was a contender for the middleweight title when the murders occured. His defeat by Joey Giardiello was depicted as a racist robbery, even though Carter had defeated him fair and square. The movie seems to ask, "Why would a man with so much going for him murder innocent people?"

Reality: In 1966 (year of the murders), Carter's boxing career was dying. It was going down the tubes. He had peaked in 1964. He had fallen to number 9 in the rankings. His record for 1965-66 was a dismal 7-7-1. All of this, racially tense times, and booze may have had to do with his state of mind the night of the murders. Plus also, Giardiello's victory was not racist. The judges ruled in his favor because he beat Carter's ass fair and square.

Movie: Carter served in the Army honorably, as an ideal soldier.

Reality: Carter was discharged after 21 months with a 4F (Unfit for military service). He was, at best, a poor soldier.

Movie: Carter was a child hero who saved his friend from a child molestor by hitting the man in the head with a bottle, and then stabbing him in self defense after the man dangled him threateningly near a cliff.

Reality: Carter was a thug who attacked and robbed a man of $55 and a watch.

Movie: Cops pull over Rubin Carter and John Artis shortly after the murders. They are looking for two black men in a white car. Carter says sarcastically, "Any two will do?" The movie leads viewers to believe they were stopped more or less because they were black. Plus the surroundings create the idea that the two were far from the murders when they occured.

Reality: Carter and Artis were rounded up for one reason: their car exactly matched the description of the getaway car as provided by witnesses. In fact, they were stopped once, about 14 blocks from the scene of the murders, but police let them go because there were three individuals in the car, not two: Rubin Carter, John Artis, and John "Bucks" Royster, a local barfly. When the cops got a detailed description of the getaway car, they realized that was the car they'd let go earlier and took off to find it.

Movie: Carter and Artis, when they were stopped after the murders, Artis was driving the car, and Carter was sitting in the seat beside him, perhaps to insinuate that they were innocent and had nothing to hide by sitting in plain sight, and acting normally.

Reality: Artis was indeed driving, but Carter was laying down in the backseat. Maybe he was just tired, or was he hiding? And a third man, John "Bucks" Royster was seated beside Artis.

Movie: A vicious, racist detective named Vincent Della Pesca, who has hounded Carter since childhood, and has framed Carter, is seeing glowering in court in 1985 as the judge sets Carter free.

Reality: The detective's name was actually Vincent DeSimone. And he was actually a well-respected law enforcement officer, with a good reputation, never cursed, who was not racist. He even told his wife, that he would never be able to sleep knowing an innocent man was being wrongly accused. He was known to be "tough, but fair." The film's producers were forced to admit that their depiction of the detective never existed. In fact, he had never had any law-enforcement contact with Carter before the murders. At the time Carter and Artis were picked up by the police for the murders, DeSimone was home in bed. Plus also, unlike in the movie, he was not present in court at the time Carter was freed, in 1985. He had been dead for six years. He had died in 1979. But he was probably turning over in his grave at the thought of Carter free.

Movie: Carter was accused of murdering at that bar for racial reasons, but later, when the Canadians visited one of the black witnesses, named Louise Cockersham, she refutes this, saying she and husband were served there, and even ran a tab there.

Reality: According to Pat Valentine who lived above the bar, it did not serve blacks. The real Cockershams had to pay for their drinks and take them out the back door.

Movie: During a tape-recorded interview with the racist detective, small time criminals Al Bello and Arthur Bradley conspire to frame Carter for the murders.

Reality: No conspiracy was needed. Bello, being a witness, told a friend, "Rubin Carter shot up the whole bar!" Months later, Bello, voluntarily (reluctantly) named Carter as one of the killers in the murders in TWO interviews with the police. Three days after Bello talked, Bradley was interviewed and confirmed Bello's story. And Bradley was 75 miles away, locked in prison. So they were never together. Finally, in a third interview, with DeSimone, Bello once more named Carter as one of the killers. This time, it was tape-recorded. Bello had already talked and didn't know he was being taped. And Bradley was nowhere near the place. This is the interview falsely depicted in the film.

Movie: The gunmen run out of the front door of the bar and through the shadows to their getway car, which is waiting at the curb. Plus the street is dark, poorly lit. Al Bello is shown watching the shadowy figures from a distance from a gas station across the street. This implies Bello could never have identified the gunmen with such a fleeting glimpse of darkened figures.

Reality: The gunmen came out the front door, turned to the right, walked around the corner and walked down the sidewalk, laughing and talking loudly, according to Bello's testimony. (Bello was walking along the same sidewalk, in the opposite direction, toward the same bar.) They were so brazen that Bello at first thought they were gun-wielding cops. Only when he got to within 10 or 15 feet of them did Bello realize that they weren't cops. He turned and ran for his life. The getaway car, rather than being parked at the curb out front, was in the westbound lane of the side street that ran alongside the bar.

Movie: Carter was convicted by a "jury of his peers," all of whom were lily white. The whitest juror of them all gets up and delivers the "guilty" verdict with a subtle, self-satisfied sneer. Obviously, this implies, that Paterson New Jersey's justice system unjustly convicted Carter, because they were racist, aided and abetted by an all white jury.

Reality: Two blacks served on the jury in Carter's second trial in 1976, which is virtually ignored by the film. The jury was selected in Hudson County, not Passaic County where the crimes occurred.

Another thing the movie ignored was in 1976, Carter and Artis were given a new trial, and another chance to avoid all responsibility for the murders. In fact, in the jury, in this trial, some of the jurors were black. And again, they were both found guilty. During the months that Carter was free for his second trial, he brutally beat up a woman who was working to help set him free.

It goes on and on...

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Check out Cal Deal's website on the case.It shows overwhelming evidence of Carter's guilt.Rubin Carter is a punk who viciously beat up a 4'11" woman that led the campaign to get his retrial.

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With Carter's passing on 4-20-14, rented this movie from the library. Read an article just today, "How Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter rewrote Oscar campaigning" about why it didn't win more awards due to its inaccuracies:

Screenwriter Armyan Bernstein, a novice who was much better known as a producer, took a number of liberties in adapting the books "The 16th Round" and "Lazarus and the Hurricane." The screenplay and movie not only distorted Carter's boxing history, suggesting he lost a famous match to Joey Giardello because of racist judges but also depicted the boxer as nearly saintly, even though he had served time for muggings. The movie also created a fictional racist police detective stalking Carter and misstated the racial composition of a jury that convicted Carter. Soon after the film was released, New York Post columnist Jack Newfield blasted the picture as a "horrible falsification of history." Then ex-New York Times reporter Selwyn Raab, whose original reporting uncovered evidence that played a role in overturning Carter's original conviction, called the film a "fairy tale" that rewrote history "for dramatic effect."
Rather sad but at least the truth came out.

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