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'Your looks are becomming a problem!'


I'm sorry if I'm missing something painfully obvious but what does this line mean that Jeff Bebe says to Russell?

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I vaguely remember that line. wasn't it during their dispute over the t-shirts & their public image?

I'll take a guess & say the singer was ovbiously very image-conscious because he was so egocentric. Their looks mattered as much to him as their music, evidently. he thot of himself as the front man, altho Russell was the real talent, & he was always jealous of that. (kinda like Bonjovi)

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Pretty much. He goes on to say that they agreed on a "formula," where he's the frontman and Russell is "the guitarist with mystique." So, since Russell is becoming the more popular member, Jeff is upset that he's not being recognized even though he's the lead singer.

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I've watched it with the commentary and I don't remember that, but it's been a few years so I can't trust my memory on that.

Even if it could be seen that way, it definitely has a double-meaning based on the whole conversation that I referenced, which was in the exact same scene. Even if Jeff was still using cocaine, he was obviously threatened by the fact that people were paying more attention to Russell. I mean, his line to Russell at the end of Untitled speaks volumes: "I'm the you they get when they can't get you." Jeff recognizes that Russell is the more popular member of the band, and he is threatened by it, which has nothing to do with cocaine.

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Yawsbass wrote:
"Even if Jeff was still using cocaine, he was obviously threatened by the fact that people were paying more attention to Russell."
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Absolutely. I wholeheartedly agree. The effect of the coke was to make Jeff express this sentiment very awkwardly.

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I came here to ask the exact same question.

Sorry to say this, but I don't think it has been answered in this thread.

Does he look too good and attract too much attention from women? Does he not look good enough to be part of the band?

Neither was apparent to me.

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That's how I see it. It's laid out there pretty clearly in the movie, but I could be wrong.

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"That's how" meaning what? I presented two different possibilities there.



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Sorry. Referring to my previous post, not something in yours. I personally think that Jeff's comment was one based on insecurity: other characters state that everybody in the band is good, but Russell could be great, which Jeff probably realizes but can't admit. So, I (obviously) think that my view is probably correct, but I'm also going off of scenes that are found in the director's cut which shed more light on the conflict in the band and the relationship between Jeff and Russell.

Sorry I wasn't clear.

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Does he look too good and attract too much attention from women?
This is how I took it. That his sex appeal was overshadowing the musical direction of the group.

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Not in anyway to discount the excellent analysis above, but from a screenplay/comedy angle, you have an amazing dramatic scene where these guys start telling each other the things that we have seen building up through the movie. They are telling each other painful truths and then to cap it off, the looks line comes out and it seems so ridiculous and deluded and self-centered on Jeff Bebe's part that it is just funny.

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yes, it comes over as your looks [ie IMAGE to fans] are a problem [ie by comparison to MINE]

ie he was just meant to be the Keith Richards, but was threatening "Mick"

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Well it messes with the dynamic of the group (copying every other rock-n-roll quartet after Zeppelin) The lead singer is supposed to connect with the audience (hopefully with a 80% horny girl attendance) and be appealing while the guitarist is supposed to be very talented, but mysterious, silent and unapproachable by the fans. Russell was not playing his part correctly. He was connecting with the audience.

But Russel's looks and skills were surpassing the group's dynamic. Being good looking makes him a threat as he can take his skilled musicianship AND his incredibly handsome looks and go solo, leaving them high and dry.


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Wow, no one came close to answering the question.

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He's just trolling the boards trying to get a rise out of people. Don't encourage it.

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I think he just said it out of anger:

Jeff: You want to pretend this isn't going
to be a very big band. Well it is. You
call yourself a leader of this band, but
your direction allowed the t-shirt, when
you allowed Dick to manage us, 'cause
he's your friend... don't you see? The
t-shirt is everything.

Russel: Is it my turn? Because I think we
should, for once, say what we really
mean.

Jeff: Oh, this is the part where you quit -

Russel: (stiffening)
Right. I'm so predictable.

Jeff: Deal with it! And let me just say
what nobody Else wants to say

Russel: What?

Jeff: Your looks have become a problem!

I thought that was a pretty good scene

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excuse my ignorance (and i get this is coming from an insecure Jeff) -- but is he trying to imply that Russells looks are a problem because
a) they are too good.. ie attracting too much attention or

b) hes started looking rough/shabby.

I think its confusing because in that scene Russell did look a bit rough/tired.

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It's not confusing at all. Billy Crudup and consequently his character, Russell Hammond, is extremely attractive and much better-looking than any of the other band members. Thus he fulfills both the "guitarist with mystique" role because he is talented and less talkative it appears (his avoidance of William's interview demonstrating this) while also being the heart-throb and center of attention due to his looks.

Jeff wanted a partnership reminiscent of Page and Plant for an example where Robert Plant was extremely gorgeous but Jimmy Page was the main creative force or Keith Richards and Mick Jagger where Richards was always mumbling and on an incredible amount of drugs while Jagger strutted around in the spotlight and slept with every woman alive in the 70s. This are obviously extremely rough generalizations, but that's all Jeff was looking for.


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Both Russell and Jeff are egomaniacal in their own way. Jeff, obviously, was the definition of a man with "lead singer disease" ...the flamboyant, in-your-face, needs-to-be-the-center-of-attention guy. I suspect if we knew Jeff's backstory, we would learn that he had this personality since he was a child and just naturally gravitated to being a lead singer since it allowed him to keep on being the center of attention.

Russell, on the other hand, was just as full of himself, but in a quieter, more passive-aggressive way. He didn't necessarily overtly seek attention like Jeff, but he liked it just as much. He definitely liked being a guy people just seemed to like and gravitate toward and he was happy to take full advantage of it whenever it was convenient, no matter what it did to others.

While the band was up and coming, each were getting what they deemed to be "their fair share" of attention. Jeff was the frontman so the spotlights were on him, which, again, is exactly what he wanted and needed. Russell was, by all accounts a brilliant guitarist, and, while he didn't need the overt attention that Jeff did, he did LOVE the adulation. He loved that Penny swooned over him. He loved that a Rolling Stone reporter would follow him around and, with some gentle prodding, would probably right a puff piece about the greatness of his band and his own guitar work.

Jeff's problem at this point was that, as the band was breaking big, it was becoming apparent that, even though he was front and center and definitely "deserved" to be the face of the band, everybody including the press, the record label, the hottest groupies, and even Rolling Stone magazine was gravitating toward Russell. Worst of all, Russell in his quiet, understated way was (in Jeff's mind) egging it on and loving every minute of it. Since (again, in Jeff's paranoid mind), it couldn't be talent or a better personality, it had to be the fact that Russell was a better looking guy, thus "your looks are becoming a problem!!" They were only becoming a problem to Jeff... although in fairness, this blow up (and obviously several later events) eventually did wake Russell up to the fact that he was using people and treating them badly in the process.

It is important to note that the rest of the band. while (as we later learned) they clearly had their own issues, were completely content to be the rhythm section and get the leftovers (in terms of money, chicks and fame). The war of egos was between Jeff and Russell alone.

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Very good analysis tallkennj.

However, I agree with everything except for nobody else cared. If I remember right, the bass player was nodding his head yes during Jeff's speech...

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What was happening was the record company management were using Russell's looks to try and sell the band as a product with him as the front man over the band as a whole. Like putting Russell in the front on album cover, promotional materials and T-shirts. Like the shirts that caused this incident, where Russell was in front and in focus and the rest of the band wasn't. Obviously this pissed the rest of the band off.

This is a draw on what was done with the Doors.

The recording company executives were focusing on Jim Morrison. They started presenting the band as Jim Morrison & The Doors. They'd do album covers and promotional materials where Morrison was in front and physically bigger than the rest of the band. Managers were always trying to get Morrison to dump the rest of the guys and go solo.

In that case, they totally picked the wrong guy to pitch the idea to. Morrison had absolutely no interest in doing this, even though he *was* essentially carrying the rest of the band on his coattails in the image department. That wasn't entirely true when it came to the Doors' music obviously. But that wasn't immediately apparent.

The thing was, Morrison was deeply ambivalent and uncomfortable about being a rock star in the first place. He was using and abusing drugs and alcohol to be able to go out and do it. They brought out unpleasant and self destructive aspects of his psyche and personality.

We all know what THAT eventually caused.

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