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Why did Leo pick CJ over Josh to succeed him?


What do you think were his motives?

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Some say it was because he knew Josh needed to go out and find the next real thing. I say it was just really bad writing.

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Agreed. I think even worse writing was that Josh was in no way surprised or offended by this.

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I think he was actually, they just didn't show it which was a bad writing choice.

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THis is one of the most unbelievable storylines ever on WW. CJ would have never been on any short list, let alone the choice. In real life, it would have gone to an inside Washington player in the party. Probably a Chief of Staff from the ranking House and Senate. Josh would have been considered.

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I would like to think the writers must have debated this very point prior to writing the final script! They must have thought how totally illogical it would be to have CJ step up to the plate, while at the same time overlooking Josh as the natural successor - he is deputy CoS afterall!!

But for whatever reason they went with CJ. Perhaps they had bigger plans for Josh further down the road (subsequent campaign manager at the back end of S6 and 7). Or perhaps the actress herself, Allison Janey, wanted a change of role and was threatening to leave the show if she didn't get a better part (pure speculation of course)

Either way, the decision to make her CoS, was a bad one; illogical, unbelievable and just plain silly! All of which reflected badly on the show as a whole. But had Sorkin remained on the writing staff he would have probably made a better decision than what we ended up with.

Admittedly, CJ acquitted herself quite well in the role after a few episodes, but the whole process of promoting a Press Secretary to CoS within 24 hours was just plain crazy.






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Admittedly, CJ acquitted herself quite well in the role after a few episodes, but the whole process of promoting a Press Secretary to CoS within 24 hours was just plain crazy.


At one point I also found myself thinking, "wow, CJ really stepped up and was a great Chief of Staff." Then I realized, of course she was, because that's what the writers wrote!


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It might have been because of Allison Janey's star power that her character got the promotion to give her more screen time.

I didn't think that Leo picked her; I thought it was purely the President's choice. Also, if you go back to the episode "He Shall From Time to Time" (I think that's what it's called), the President asks the cabinet secretary that's staying behind if he has a best friend. He tells him that his best friend should be his Chief of Staff should he have to take over. This may have been a motive for Bartlett to choose C.J. especially since I doubt he would have picked anyone outside of his senior staff to be CoS.

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It was very clearly stated that when the President asked Leo for a list of names, he only gave him one.

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As I recall, and its been a bit since that episode, Barlet asked Leo for his recommendation to fill the CoS position and CJ was his choice.

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This out-of-left field move was an ill-advised one. CJ, as the Bartlet Administration's Press Secretary, displayed vivacity and ready wit that sustained her through many frenetic twists and turns. As COS, CJ morphed into a joyless, monotonic micro-manager without charm or nuance.

Further, appointing her as COS without at least a sit-down between the prez and Josh made the switch seem inauthentic. As a courtesy, Jed more likely would have advised Josh of his intentions beforehand. Bartlet's decision seemed capricious and was executed poorly.

I would have bought CJ as an interim COS while Barrlet weighed his options after a thoughtful consideration of candidates, but the change just didn't ring true. One of the very few missteps in an otherwise spectacular drama series.

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I would say that by that point, Josh was far too toxic. Republicans on the Hill already hated him and he had starting alienating the Democrats on the Hill with the defection of the Democratic Senator.

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I thought it was weird at the time but with each re-watch it becomes more of an obvious choice. I think he wanted josh to go off and find the next guy also Toby and the president clashed too much. CJ is frequently shown to to be the voice of reason, and not afraid to stand up to Bartlett. Josh never does that. He's so desperate to please Leo and the president. Also she's not just any old press secretary. She had an active role in policy and foreign relations for 6 years.

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I have to say that CJ was a choice long before.. If you watch her relationship with Leo it shows early on.. India and Pakistan, MS and other times throughout the term up till then. All and all I have to agree with Jennamaria as well on her take.. The more times I watch, the more it seems like it was the right thing to do while keeping it in the family as well (family/senior staff)

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Also to follow up on me post above.. I would recommend rewatching Leo and CJ's scenes during 1.22 What kind of day.. And watch Leo during the briefing.. That is when she went on the long list IMO

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Yeah, people come up with their own explanation that Josh needed to find his own guy (and Leo and Josh do have some conversations that support this theory) but in reality it was just... Allison Janney was a bigger part of this show than C.J. would have been in the administration, and so she was the one to give it to. She has four Emmys, she'd become a household name. Plus, they likely knew they were going to spin Josh off on to the campaign trail, so it would have been silly to give the job to him, only for him to leave it a few episodes later. If Josh was out of the running because of the storyline they were planning, it only leaves C.J. and Toby (they acted like Will was a candidate, but c'mon, who are we kidding?) and Richard Schiff didn't have the star power. The main characters of The West Wing have always struck me as Jed, Josh, and C.J. Leo and Toby get a lot of focus, but it feels a lot more like Jed, Josh and C.J.'s stories, with Leo and Toby (and Sam and Will and Donna and Charlie and etc.) as strong supports.

But yeah, in reality, it would absolutely be Josh. And if not Josh, then they would have brought someone else new in. It wouldn't be C.J. because she doesn't have the experience, it wouldn't be Toby because of the fraught nature of his relationship with Jed, and it wouldn't be Will because he also probably doesn't have the experience and isn't a trusted enough part of the team. It'd be Josh or someone new. Only reasonable candidates.

Also she's not just any old press secretary. She had an active role in policy and foreign relations for 6 years.
I don't deny she's not any old press secretary. And I'd buy her promotion to Communications Director no problem. But jumping all the way to Chief of Staff is a big leap.

I personally have no trouble believing they might pass Josh up for the job, it's just C.J. getting it that seems iffy.

I would say that by that point, Josh was far too toxic. Republicans on the Hill already hated him and he had starting alienating the Democrats on the Hill with the defection of the Democratic Senator.
Eh, he redeemed himself pretty mightily with how he handled the Shutdown. I don't think that's the kind of thing that would tank his candidacy as Chief of Staff a year later, it seemed to be forgiven and forgotten.

That said, there definitely are concerns about how Josh would fare as a Chief of Staff. He's a very volatile guy, and he's better as an attack dog than a leader. He also had long established himself as the class clown of the Senior Staff, and while that's endearing and why we love Josh it probably does serve to make him seem a little less substantial. Season 7 did go a long way to showing him mature into more of a Leo figure though. But he maybe wasn't there in early Season 6.

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Actually my thought has always been that they all have "Star Power" the whole cast and a majority of the walk on, one shot guests were very good at their trade.. Just my two cents.

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I agree with Glozone. Josh was really more of the attack dog who was always looking for the political angle. In the episode where Bartlett temporarily steps aside and allows the Republican Speaker of the House to take over, it's only Josh who worries about the GOP taking advantage of that. (Everyone else on the senior staff is more concerned about Zoe being recovered safely.)

In the men's room, one of the Republicans (I forget if he was a Congressman or one of Walken's staffers) tells Josh outright that they -the Republicans- respect Bartlett immensely for what he's done. He's cut the terrorists' plans off at the pass and actually given power over to his opposition -something they never would've figured on. He tells Josh that if they -the GOP- tried to take political advantage of this, they'd -rightly- be crucified. He sums up by saying that anyone who would even dream they'd try something like that would have to have a very venal view of politics.

CJ was a better choice because she was a far calmer person able to see the big picture and remain in control. Both her and Leo realized that sometimes political expediency had to be sacrificed for the national interest. That's something Josh really couldn't see.

What's more CJ is better at dealing with people than Josh is. He's far too liable to fly off the handle, especially when stressed.

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Actually my thought has always been that they all have "Star Power" the whole cast and a majority of the walk on, one shot guests were very good at their trade.. Just my two cents.
Oh, I don't disagree that they're all very talented. Has nothing to do with talent. Rob Lowe has more star power than anyone on the cast but Martin Sheen, but I don't for a moment think he's a better actor than Brad, Allison, Richard or John. Sometimes star power has nothing to do with talent. Look at someone like Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise, mediocre actors at best, and two of the most quintessential "movie stars" of the past 20 years.

Allison Janney won an unheard of amount of Emmys for the role, and had become one of the faces of the show. I didn't start watching the show until Season 6 and I had heard of Allison Janney and her character C.J., but not Richard Schiff and Toby. I think those kinds of things factor into decisions like this. The promotion to Chief of Staff gave her a far bigger role in Season 6 than Toby had, and if they really had the two of them to choose from, I think they'd be inclined to give it to Allison.

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I don't deny she's not any old press secretary. And I'd buy her promotion to Communications Director no problem. But jumping all the way to Chief of Staff is a big leap.

I personally have no trouble believing they might pass Josh up for the job, it's just C.J. getting it that seems iffy.


Especially since they didn't even trust C.J. with information she needed for her job in the first few seasons.

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It's just a plot point which made Josh on the look out for his own Bartlett. It's a shame that the Hoynes character got dragged through the mud a bit. I think it would have made in interesting plot line for Josh to re-discover him as a changed man who is ready to be a great president or whatever.

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