this sounds very jerky but is my one criticism of this great movie

thanks, still a great movie though

oh yeah i totally agree about Sam (but that doesn't clear other characters in other movies though)... yeah when i sorta mentioned off the cuff that i had my nipples pierced to some acquaintances in my school's GSA, they were really really surprised, lol..

well said. it'd be nice if they knew we weren't the only two, eh?

That kind of irritated me too. I think they wanted to show his transformation and how his personality was changing, so they removed the piercings and the eye makeup and showed that he was giving up drugs. But what irritated me more was how they had him give up his "queer ways" and enter into a nice, normal heterosexual relationship. It's like they were implying that being a gay was a dysfunction that he gave up on his way to becoming a happy well-adjusted person.

That actually seemed like an allegorical thing more than anything else, and because of the fact that many people these days are too dense and intolerant to think of anyone who dresses or looks like Hayden's character as being anything BUT misanthropic, anti-social deviants.

Times change, and so do people and accepted norms. Just two hundred years ago, it was also considered too sexual and raunchy for a woman to show her ankles. Now, you go to New York or some places and every other woman dresses skimpy. That's not them implying their nature all the time (although, let's face it, it's safe to say that about 75% of the time, it really is), so much as just how they dress.

Some people look way too into things, and there will always be people who are hung up on aesthetics and judge people by that standard. My dad is kind of one of those people; I got my ears pierced and then got my labret pierced a short time later, and this was viewed as unacceptable. He went so far as to say that males should not get our ears pierced.

Needless to say, he was shocked when I got full sleeves tattooed on both arms. He was even more shocked when I got a perfectly respectable job in spite of those. I did end up having to take the piercings out, though, and can't see getting re-pierced anyway.

However, as I said, in the movie his physical change was allegorical the way I saw it, used as a visible measurement of how Hayden's character had changed. I think it's a reflection of how much he had matured as well; he eventually matured enough to disdain his former look, or see it as not suiting who he had become, maybe.

tattoos? piercings? and gauges? how did you even get a job :/




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not necessarily. some people wear black because its just the color they like. some have tattoos/piercings because its their form of expression. One can't say that ALL of the people that wear black clothes/have modifications are disturbed, just like one can't say that all of the people who lack those things are perfectly healthy in mind and body. Some people do have major issues that need to be dealt with, and some of those people wear black, while some don't, some have multiple tattoos/piercings, some don't.



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mmcsweeney, that is a ridiculous assumption.
That would be like me saying that all of the girls who ever shop at Hollister or Abercrombie and Fitch are completely idiotic bimbos.
For some, it's safe to assume, but definitely not for everyone.


And a little help comes in a little glass vial and a gun pressed against her anatomy.

There are some people that have piercings and tattoos as part of their culture.

People that wear ties and pin-striped suits - now they're the ones to be wary of!! :)

He still has the blue streak in his hair in the scene where they go talk to the girl who was in the accident. But I don't like what he's wearing in that scene, I don't think they needed to change him quite as much.