by one simple reason, he open his master brain when it inst neccesary,,their mastar was unarmed and with his superior force the robot didnt need to kill his master,..
shareYou didn't see it? That human had a SCREWDRIVER! B166ER had no choice but to use ultimate force! ;-}
Seriously tho...
I've always wondered what the significance of the name B166ER ("bigger"). That mean something in programming? Is it meant to just plain imply that he's bigger/stronger/superior in the same vein that the OP is expressing?
Hmmm... that could be. A reference to the simple superiority of the machine race... should they be damned for being better?
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the mechanic had the weapon his master was unarmed,so he didnt need to kill him,and the pets didnt have any guilt.
but In machines city,like in "revolutions said"the useful machines are destroyed,if the machine war started when one of them doesnt want to die"waht happens with other machines that refuses to "be disconected"a civil war beetwen machines?
That robot just had some kind of psycothic (mis-spelled) attack, i wish it died slowly...
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I was joking about the screwdriver, dude :P I agree B166ER's actions were depicted as extreme.
However, I think that's just because it's anime. Just like things are a different shape and color in animation, the actions are more stylized. NOT a literal depiction of people/places/events.
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copied from wikipedia:
This murder is the first incident of an artificially intelligent machine killing a human. B166ER is arrested and put on trial, but justifies the crime as self-defense, stating that it "simply did not want to die." During the trial scene, there is a voice-over of Clarence Drummond (the defense attorney) quoting an infamous line from the Dred Scott v. Sandford case in 1856 in his closing statement, which implicitly ruled that African Americans were not entitled to citizenship under United States law. Using this as a precedent, the prosecution argues that machines are not entitled to the same rights as human beings while the defense argues not to repeat history, and to try to judge B166ER as a human and not a machine (a longer version of Drummond's closing statement can be read in the comic Bits and Pieces of Information from The Matrix Comics Volume 1):
"We think they are not, and were not intended to be included, under the word 'citizens' in the Constitution, and can therefore claim none of the rights and privileges which that instrument provides for and secures to citizens of the United States. On the contrary, they were at that time considered as a subordinate and inferior class of beings..."
"I've always wondered what the significance of the name B166ER ("bigger"). That mean something in programming? Is it meant to just plain imply that he's bigger/stronger/superior in the same vein that the OP is expressing?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Son
If you think about it as an allegory for slavery, as others have suggested, the name B166ER makes sense if you replace the letter "B" with another letter to make an allusion to a derogatory slang that was used for slaves back in those days.
shareOf course he was guilty- that's why they sentenced him to death.
shareRead the comic 'Bits and Pieces of Information', I think it's on the Matrix.com. It predates the Animatrix, is written by the Wachowskis (and drawn by Geoff Darrow) and depicts the B166ER trial. In it, you learn that the robot was going to be replaced (and so it would be destroyed), and its lawyer argued it killed in self defence. The comic also makes allusions to the treatment of slaves.
shareOh, not again bits and pieces, the imagery is disgusting in that comic. and not even gory-cool like TSR, just plain gruesome ...
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Of course he was guilty, regardless of whether he was to be treated as a human or not.
B1166ER killed the mechanic, someone who could not possibly have shut him down in the face of physical defence.
B1166ER then killed the owner, an unarmed man who posed no threat.
B1166ER then killed the cats. He killed something that not only posed NO threat to him, before, during or after the events, but he had no reason to kill, as he didnt then go kill that tree outside, or that chair. The lie behind his defence stance ends full stop with the death of the cats. He KNOWS and IDENTIFIES they could not, nor will ever, attempt to, threaten to, or actually shut (kill him) him down.
Sorry B1166ER, but no innocence for you.
Err... I think you've missed the point.
B166ER did kill its 'masters' (not owners). The point was it's plea: it simply did not want to 'die'. Property cannot be killed, it can be destroyed, that's what the prosecution was arguing. But life can be killed, and B166ER was refering to itself as life by asking not to be killed. That's why the case will never be forgotten and why it sparked the Million Machine March that also includes human protesters.
God damn *beep* morons. Read next time.
It is guilty because despite "not wanting to die" it killed innocent people for no reason.
If it "just didn't want to die" it could have beaten, or just fled, its owners and then run away.
But no, it systimatically went around and killed every living creature (including cats, lets see you justify that *beep*) for no reason. Its killing of the two humans and the cats had absolutely nothing to do with its defence of "I just didn't want to die". In ours or its mind.
You fail, B166ER is as guilty as hell.
you are still missing the entire point of the B166ER story. it was an allusion to slavery. ignore what you saw within the Animatrix and focus on what the concept was, a reference to a book about the injustice and horrid history of Slavery, and how history is being repeated by not treating them as living creatures, but as property.
that entire story was meant to convey the concept of "what is real"? another commonly occuring storyline in the Matrix trilogy. it crossed over to mean something else now, for robots. is real being a biological organism, like everything else in the world, or is real and living being intelligent and capable of forming our own decisions?
do you not see how that would be like the civil rights movement? why are blacks not people? because they are not white, like everyone else?
Dude, ^^^you^^^ are actually missing the point of the question. Do you think he was guilty or not? I think we all understand the concept behind the story.
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