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There are so many reasons to dislike Jenny.

posted 10 years ago by whoiamnow
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I stop watching this after season 3 and now that I have Netflix, I'm rewatching the series. I disliked Jenny the first round but now I can't her. I fast forwarded through of most of her scenes in Season 2, especially her writing. Way too many "single tear down the cheek" moments. So self involved and self-righteous.

I'm in Season 3 and I abhor her mainly for the way she just threw Moria out there without warning. She had to know that Moria was from a different culture. Jenny didn't prepare her at all for was to expect. To not recognize how uncomfortable that initial dinner was for Moria is such a testimony to Jenny's self absorbtion.

[–] SampanMassacre 10 years ago

I've written several times already in other posts that Jenny's the one we really follow through season 1. It's always the new kid in town that shows the audience everything, because we are the new kid as well. She got really pretentious and bad later on but I felt that was kind of interesting.

[–] catbookss 9 years ago

I fast forwarded through of most of her scenes in Season 2, especially her writing.

I just finished watching all 6 seasons. Jenny started out all right, and then gradually became more and more horrible, until you end up basically hating her. I groaned when they'd show a scene of her writing. It was terrible and tedious. Wish they hadn't turned her into some kind of screenwriting genius.

[–] alexaw9 9 years ago

Started out alright? Are you kidding? She was the one causing a lot of the drama in season one, and yet in EVERY one of her scene, she twists anything that is being said around to make herself the victim. Talking about her cheating, talking about Marina, fights with Tim, getting criticism from that writing teacher that she asked for in the first place (s2, but beginning) -- she has to be being victimized. And she says constant negative things about herself to others, but the second anyone else agrees with her or gives her any criticism, she gets hurt. I know people mainly get hurt over criticism, but she says awful, sometimes true, things about herself to others, or asks them about it, and if they ever agree that it's awful or don't just toss out all the criticism she gave herself, she gives them this look like she's angry and just needed them to tell her how wonderful she is. Drives me crazy.

[–] ppllkk 9 years ago

alexaw9 wrote:

Drives me crazy.

I reacted to Jenny differently. I should say that I've not seen the entire series — I think I stopped early in season four — and I do not remember the details well enough to comment specifically on what she said, but I was a real Jenny fan.In the first two seasons, she held my interest more than anyone else, and when she returned in season three, she wasn't the same. I think that was a significant part of my losing interest. (Also the plots became more far-fetched and the whole program became more soap opera-ish. That is a feature for some people, but it isn't for me.)What I do remember is why I liked Jenny so much in the first two seasons. Every time she got clobbered — and that seemed to be all the time — she would pick yourself up, dust herself off, and start all over again.

[–] alexaw9 9 years ago

She had a big part in a lot of the clobbering happening in the first place, though.
She's also been described many times as a sociopath, especially by the end of the show, and I think being able to get up the same as if nothing's happened, no matter what has happened, could be being strong, or it could be being a sociopath.

[–] ppllkk 9 years ago

alexaw9 wrote:

She had a big part in a lot of the clobbering happening in the first place, though.

I agree, but I still admire her resilience. In fact, I think it is quite remarkable.

especially by the end of the show

Okay, but I have not seen the end of the show. I was disgusted that instead of doing something with her breakdown, they just shipped are off to a mental hospital and then home. I don't think I really trusted the writers after that.

I think being able to get up the same as if nothing's happened, no matter what has happened, could be being strong, or it could be being a sociopath.

Yes, but in the first two seasons I never felt that Jenny was not hurt by, was not being affected by, was ignoring what was happening to her. Rather the opposite. She knew that she had been clobbered, but she did get herself back together again, and I admire that.So, I am not responding to your comments about Jenny through the entire series; I am just saying that in the first two seasons, I was a real fan of her.I know that the character "Jenny" is what she is through the entire series, and I can't just pick out the times that I liked her and call it "Jenny." But I think that she was a remarkable creation in the first two years whatever she became later.

[–] alexaw9 9 years ago

Well I think she was still pretty bad in the first two seasons, but I can respect your opinion, whether I agree with it or not.

[–] ppllkk 9 years ago

alexaw9 wrote:

Well I think she was still pretty bad in the first two seasons,

Okay. I think we are judging her from different perspectives.

but I can respect your opinion,

LOL You don't have to do that. You can think that I'm completely nuts. This is a subjective matter and there's no right answer. At least, I think that it is subjective although you may not agree. I tend to be very non-judgmental about sexual behavior — unless it goes on for seven years. Mostly I argue about things that I believe are very close to facts, e.g. that Ross is not a potentially dangerous sociopath and what Rachel does to Ross for seven years.But in this particular case, because I liked Jenny so much, and she was not getting much support, I did want to say what I liked about her. It is a personal reaction on my part to Jenny, and I do not claim anything more for it.

[–] alexaw9 9 years ago

I can disagree with something and still respect the other person and subsequently their opinions. My viewpoint is that while she may have gotten up and dusted herself from her problems, she caused and willfully so, I might add, most if not all of them, and also constantly needed attention like a child with almost all of them, and that nullifies any respect I may have for her.

[–] ppllkk 9 years ago

alexaw9 wrote:

and that nullifies any respect I may have for her.

That is what our disagreement comes down to. If I were to watch the first two seasons again, and go through them with you in detail — I'm not suggesting that  — from what I know of you, I believe that we would agree about what Jenny does and would agree that she does things that are bad/wrong, but I like her anyway.I am not so much defending Jenny, as saying that I like her in spite of it all largely because of her resilience. I have sympathy for Jenny and her problems probably because she reminds me of young women that I knew a long time ago.

[–] alexaw9 9 years ago

Maybe that's the difference. She reminds you of others, while she reminds me of myself. The self-victimizing and attention seeking and causing her own problems. So I really can't stand that she "brushes herself off" from it, like it was this big problem for her, when SHE caused it in the first place. And how she keeps victimizing herself and everyone plays along. I have no sympathy for her, because maybe it seems like she tries, but she just puts herself in the same situation over and over and over again and acts like it's so hard to get over, but does it again! It probably causes more emotion and inspection of her character in me than in you.

[–] ppllkk 9 years ago

alexaw9 wrote:

she just puts herself in the same situation over and over and over again and acts like it's so hard to get over

I agree.

It probably causes more emotion and inspection of her character in me than in you.

That is true. I don't identify with her; I do sympathize with her.Let me say this in response to your remarks about yourself: I do like Jenny, and I do not judge her behavior in a very difficult time of life.

[–] alexaw9 9 years ago

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