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garner was not a good elektra


gerner is a great actress but she didn't look the part nor act it. they should have picked some more exotic looking someone asian or latin.

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I know, i wasn't feeling her Elektra.. it was way off..
Elektra can't be Asian or Latin, she has to be Greek, because y'know, she is...

And i don't like Garner as an actress, personally, especially in bad girl roles because she doesn't, to me, have a bad girl quality (i don't care about alias!).

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She is a good actress, although she does quite often same to be a harmless little girl, no matter who shes playing...

But overall, she played it quite well!

LLS

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Tatiana Maslany (Orphan Black). Looks the part, insanely talented actress, has the intense part down.

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"they should have picked some more exotic looking someone asian or latin."

- Why thank you for your suggestion, IQ-negative.

I´m sorry... that was my tourettes.

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I thought Garner was a good Elektra.

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She wasn't all that crappy, but she wasn't physically right I have to agree. I sort of liked the film, and I thought it at least looked better than Daredevil. It didn't really try to be more than it was in my mind which I felt DD did. You knew that Elektra was gonna be disjointed and silly, frankly my biggest complaint was the they put her in a slightly more authentic costume, but then added high heels, what the hell. I thankfully do not remember enough of DD to remember if she had flats on but I think she did, and at least this time her belly (as nice to look at as it is) was covered more.

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I thought she was ok.
It was the script who butchered elektra

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Garner was badly miscast as Elektra. Besides looking nothing like the Elektra character, she came across as very empty and wooden, no passion or intensity, and certainly not much of a dark side. She's also wrong from an ethnic standpoint; Elektra is Greek, Garner is clearly Caucasian and this is very pronounced in just about every role she does: she always comes across as this all-American girlscout next door type, despite her Victoria Secret style runway physique.

In short: Garner as Elektra was one of the worst casting choices in the long, sad history of bad superhero casting (right up there alongside the miscasting of Jessica Alba as the Invisible Woman/Sue Storm and Brandon Routh as Superman).

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Um, so? lol It doesn't really matter if the actress is actually Greek, all that matters is that she looks it. Although I do agree that Garner looked nothing like the character Elektra, and the hair color change to red is beyond me.

Lucy Lawless played Xena, an ancient Greek, and she's from freaking New Zealand! lol But she pulled it off tremendously when she dyed her hair jet black. which brought out her blue eyes, making her look more 'exotic'. Lawless didn't want Xena to have light hair; her natural hair color is actually more of a light blondish brown.

www.juicy-flawless.org

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Not really a fair comparison is it, given that Lawless easily beats Garner in terms of playing tough, ass kicking women.

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I hate to say it since I have a particular distaste for her but Giselle Bundchen w/ a dark dye job would have a better face for it, but I am sure that she would make Garner look like Katherine Hepburn in terms of dramatic ability. I couldn't swear to it as I avoided Taxi like I would a one titted whore with ringworm.

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Not really a fair comparison is it, given that Lawless easily beats Garner in terms of playing tough, ass kicking women.


Well, that pretty much goes without saying.

www.juicy-flawless.org

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i just can't agree. if you've ever seen Jennifer Garner in action in Alias, and still think that then you're just silly. yes, i said silly.

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DarthBill said:
"Elektra is Greek, Garner is clearly Caucasian"

floacism said:
"Um, so? lol It doesn't really matter if the actress is actually Greek, all that matters is that she looks it (although I do agree, Garner looked nothing like the character Elektra. And the hair color change is beyond me). Lucy Lawless played Xena, an ancient Greek, and she's from freaking New Zealand."

1) Greeks are of European 'white' Caucasian origins. Go to Greece, you'd be surprised.

2) Both Lawless and Garner could walk the down streets of Athens and they would blend in vey well with native Greeks as well as pass for Greek if they weren't so well known. Now if you had Halle Berry or a Lin Zhi Ling walking down the streets of Athens they'd stick out like flies in milk or red wine on baby blue.

This is what Greeks look like since obviously not many, aside from TwoMushrooms, seem to know:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHXQOIkqvts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuLfQpdH2RQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g6n9bKSKcI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTwzxPY9UbQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilMLd-fLk9Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVlg5e6ndGM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrbGsdXqinM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWFxy_KTUuk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlKOwrrSDuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eqn_FUYfm8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyjtV8ywZnY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3r5vdMcFlM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnmVNfLcZUg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjoIYPIQl6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcgB8g3iOlc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpAVCcn0iM8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izUAVPOXmP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUm438X-KBU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvBb0lmx27A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40BhOHfMxEs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20okCvrgFzg
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I don't think the person before was talking about being Greek (I could be completely off) but I think they were meaning the look Greek. Different ethnicities have different characteristics, and she didn't have those.

~Aimz~

You talkin to me?

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"I don't think the person before was talking about being Greek (I could be completely off) but I think they were meaning the look Greek. Different ethnicities have different characteristics, and she didn't have those."

That is the whole misconception people have when they are talking about "the Greek look". There isn't one. Since ancient times there wasn't a specific "Greek look" they have the typical European look. You have your dark colored(meaning hair/eyes/skin tone etc.) Greek and then you have your fair colored(meaning hair/eyes/skin tone etc.) Greek. Garner would fit into the fair colored Greek look very easily since they are Greeks with her facial characteristics and coloring as the Greeks from the clips below prove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcgB8g3iOlc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20okCvrgFzg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyjtV8ywZnY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHXQOIkqvts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrbGsdXqinM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFEdjsJzNLI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc2lo4t8te4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw9Qu-vdrZI

Now Garner does not fit the look of Elektra from the comic because the Elektra from the comic does have the "dark colored Greek look" as do these Greeks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqqpWs8glWI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgzNckJS5Ck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doIKCmqPJxc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egs3I6I9Jho

Ancient Greeks don't look much different from modern ones and Garner's look fits the the "Greek look", whatever that is, she just doesn't fit the comic book Elektra look:
http://1tee-elefs.att.sch.gr/P32/Images/troptolemos.jpg
http://www.e-yliko.gr/htmls/Fyyl/Istoria/eikones/athina.jpg
http://www.cnr.edu/home/bmcmanus/priestess.jpg
http://www.hfac.uh.edu/mcl/classics/Mycen/1990.05.0017.jpg
http://www.theogonia.gr/latreia/pinakes/alpha/imagea/adonia.jpg
http://49gym-athin.att.sch.gr/images/looney/ancientpc.jpg
http://www.mythologia.8m.com/tranestiabig.GIF
http://www.myserres.gr/tourism/i-1.jpg
http://www.aroundparnassos.com/delphi-museum/delphi-museum-9-large.jpg
http://www.aroundparnassos.com/delphi-museum/delphi-museum-6-large.jpg
http://www.aroundparnassos.com/delphi-museum/delphi-museum-14-large.jpg
http://www.aroundparnassos.com/delphi-museum/delphi-museum-24-large.jpg
http://assets.in.gr/papasotiriou/covers/9608303893.jpg
http://www.myserres.gr/tourism/i-4.jpg
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http://1tee-elefs.att.sch.gr/P32/Images/dimitra.jpg
http://www.e-yliko.gr/htmls/Fyyl/Istoria/iconsClasArt/apollonOlympia.jpg
http://www.e-yliko.gr/htmls/Fyyl/Istoria/eikones/zwforos.jpg
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http://www.rhodes.aegean.gr/sxedia/GRAFDASKALOU/TheoiOlymbou/OI_THEOI_TOY_OLYMPOY/HRA.files/image002.jpg
http://www.theogonia.gr/theoi/theoiz/thimagz/zagreus.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/3470/HERAbust.JPG

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Interesting. I mean, I knew there were different...genres...categories...types, for lack of a better word, of Greek, I just didn't know there was a vast variety. Of course, I could've been completely off on what the initial person was talking about. For all we know they could've been talking about how she "looks Greek in the comic books."

~Aimz~

You talkin to me?

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I liked her.

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i don't know what it was about it, but this flick just lacked zaz...

"We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion"

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Jen was ok, I thought they would make her a bad girl though. theyre probably afraid that if she acts badass ppl will think shes a villain. but i think that call was the writer's to make

i think the problem was either the director or the writers. this movie is boring

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Greeks are Caucasians moron!

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Thank you, Thehumanscorch. I share my wisdom where it is most needed.

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"Elektra is Greek, Garner is clearly Caucasian."

- You do know that Greek is someones nationality, right? Not ethnicity. Because surprise, Greeks are caucasian aswell.

"I share my wisdom where it is most needed."

- Witht reference to what I said above, you might want to brush up on the "wisdom" part.

Now, moving on... I can say with all honesty that I´m probably one of the people who dislikes this movie most. I really looked forward to it, but in the end, it totally blew. However, I don´t think it has much to do with Garner. Her character, and the movie itself, was very poorly written. I believe she did the best she could with the material given to her.

If she comes across as the "American girl next door", it is the directors task to actually direct her into acting as a convincing Elektra. I blame the producers and the writers much more than Garner in this case. I doubt any other actress would have made much difference to the movie quality.

"We all live with our disappointments, Peg. Of course, I have to sleep with mine."

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Another actress i think it should have played Elektra is Roselyn Sanchez...she's realy hot...and yes, it look a lot like Elektra.


I just can't picture it.

www.juicy-flawless.org

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Garner was amazing. She was cold and intelligent, but also was able to show that there were feelings buried deep down and had a fierce-motherly protectice quality about her. Who cares that she wasn't "exotic looking". It's like those people who whine because Kirsten Dunst was not a natural redhead in Spiderman. Give me a break.

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agreed her performance is the best thing about the movie i liked the film because of her i do hope they make another film daredevil 2 and she is cast i wont even see it if elektra is played by another actress she is also excellent in daredevil and 13 going on 30

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jennifer garner did a very good job as elektra!

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I can only assume that all the compliments are A) from people who know nothing about the comic book Elektra, B) people who worked on the film, or C) both.

Garner's performance was flat as a window.

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While her look is obviously not Greek enough for Elektra, I only saw the movie because Garner starred in it. Had it been someone else, I wouldn't have bothered. I'm not familiar with the comics which is probably why Garner's look didn't bother me.

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She did good but the director seems like he never picked up an Elektra comic ever.

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Yeah, I agree. Garner is a lovable and sweet all American girl, but she was wrong in this role. They should have had someone with a strong presence, natural sex-appeal (like Angelina Jolie) and who's good at kicking a**! Someone you could believe wasn't really "pure hearted".
Jennifer Garner has a nice physique and handles her weapons pretty good, but she moves like a tree; not very smooth.

Check out Chik yeung tin si (2002, aka So Close) and the ladies kicking serious butt and you'll know what I mean...

Dinah

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