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So how did the writers plan to wrap up Rose and Charlie


having the affair if Charlie had never flipped out?

That storyline had to have been written in advance and have wondered if anyone has ever read how it was supposed to have been wrapped up.

I still find it hard to believe Charlie was that stupid about Rose. I mean seriously that storyline was reaching......really reaching.

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They never planned on wrapping up Charlie and Rose. But then Charlie became a nuisance on the show, got fired, and they had Rose kill Charlie's character.

Charlie wasn't stupid for Rose. He never wanted her before because she wanted him. But, later on, he was a mess because of all the failed relationships. So, he desperately settled for a woman he knew wanted him. And she became more attractive when he thought she was married and some other man wanted her. (He never wanted what he could have easily --- other women. And he wanted what he couldn't have --- another man's wife.)

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Yeah I understand that but it had been done before. So to say he would have fallen that stupid again was reaching.

As well no they didn't have the idea of never wrapping it up because they didn't like Sheen. That makes no sense. There had to have been a storyline weeks in advance.

And I was just wondering if anyone had ever seen it or shown how it would end.

I say stupid NOT because he went after Rose but that he never caught on to any of the major signs and why didn't Gordon just tell him?

Same with Alan.

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I agree. Many of the episodes were stupid or implausible. It was just a silly comedy show.

The best example in my opinion was the show where Charlie sleeps with Alan's high priced attorney who demands Charlie be available whenever she wants him. He eventually tires of the relationship and dumps her. She retaliates by tanking Alan's case against Judith.

How is that a punishment for Charlie? Alan is the one who suffers. And why would Charlie do that? He was more interested in Alan having money and moving out than Alan was. Makes no sense.

Once again, it was just a silly comedy show. Not a documentary on brothers living together. I think there were many examples of implausiblity on this show. As we often have to do with comedy --- and most dramas --- we have to suspend belief in order to fully enjoy the show. If we are always looking for plausibility imperfections, we can tear apart most TV shows and movies. (On the other hand, if we realize implausibility is a common component of fictional entertainment, it can be an interesting exercise.)

I agree, this show was often implausible and unrealistic. Don't let that get in the way of enjoying what I think was one of the better TV shows in last twenty years. Just laugh it off as being ridiculous.

(One other thing. Yes, if the level of implausibility and unrealism is too great on any fictional production, it will undeniably ruin the show. But I don't think the level was that high with this program. And comedies often have a higher level of unrealism than dramas. Often action movies are the worst.)


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I agree completely with several of the episodes where Charlie just screwed over Alan which made no sense.

Alan's receptionist for instance. Charlie was ridiculously callous about that whole thing.

He did that several times throughout the series.

So yeah I know it was just a comedy show which all have improbably silly situations.

Nonetheless the whole Rose storyline was stretching it way to far since Gordon figured it out immediately

BUT my original question still stands. THEY had to have had a storyine to solve this situation set up in advance. I was just curious as to how it was supposed to be finished.

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The way I see it is, Rose had been plotting and scheming to be with Charlie ever since she was on the show. If Charlie had behaved in real life, they never would have killed him off. Eventually, he would have found out or figured out that Rose was tricking him. They would have broken up and things would have gone back to normal.

Or less likely, Charlie would have settled for Rose because he would rather be with someone who loved him no matter what. Than go out with a normal woman who couldn't settle for his character flaws.

The basic premise of the show was, Charlie was a hedonist who thought with his little head as opposed to his big head. All those things that we see as not making sense is yes, they don't make sense. Unless we realize Charlie wasn't doing those things because he had thought them through. He wasn't thinking. He was just doing what he wanted without thinking about the consequences. Because that was what he had always done. And until Alan moved in, that had always worked for him.


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Oh I agree. One of the most telling moments of that belief about Charlie's hedonistic lifestyle came to full screen when the one season started with Alan crawling back after he and Kandi separated.

So there are dozens of ways the episodes could have gone including Charlie finding out and never speaking to Rose again or just the opposite thinking if Rose went this far then maybe there was something there and going for it.

Or Rose being committed.

Or...well a lot of ways. I am just curious as to how the writers and show runners were headed with it.

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We have to suspend disbelief. ;)

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