Pam and why we hate


http://honersports.weebly.com/home/why-pam-beasley-halpert-is-the-worst-person-from-the-office

Turns out Turkleton was super mega correct about Spamster.

Get on the scale son! Get off the scale.

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Interesting. The funniest bit was the last two words. Andy Dufresne.

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It's a well-made article, one that would bring the loveturds Benny and frozen ones here closer to their habitual suicide attempts.

I must disagree early on though:

I don't hate Pam because her character isn't funny or entertaining in the show (she is).


Pam has never been funny, and the only time she's been entertaining is when she's on the receiving end of some digs at the hands of Angela or Phyllis, or when Michael and Dwight goof on her for not having an answer("...UHMM...") etc.

Other than that she is an overrated piece of crap led on by clueless writers who have a crush on the character. "Hey guys, for this episode we should have our little cutie try to solve a defect copy machine! Yeah! That'll add so much to the show cuz she's so cute!"
Yeah, good job writers. Why don't you go suck my pre-cum, atleast that'll be something useful for someone.

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It was a good article. You are right about Pam not being funny. In addition to those other flaws, her accent was just bloody awful to listen too.

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In addition to those other flaws, her accent was just bloody awful to listen too.


Not to mention that horrid voice as Michael correctly pointed out(and even Jim admitted to) and her semi-speech impediment. She struggled with the letter S, it sounded like a whistle. Then again there were many whistles that she blew in the office, not to mention the other things that she blew.😉

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When she angrily said "my mother!" when she was totally PamMS-ing about Mike dating her mother I swore she could have been mentally retarded.

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Benman is somehow getting your comments deleted. Why is he so sad?


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I'm not getting anybody's comments deleted. I don't report people, unless for something really serious, and haven't for ages. Lurk is a joke so there's no point reporting him, but somebody will do. It's his own fault.



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Then how did you know his comments were going to be deleted?


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LOL Benny caught with his pants down. He can no longer take it when I goof on him. He forgot about the report function which he now uses every time I post. To think this is a middle aged man tattle taling to the principal is cringe worthy.

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Why do you think I knew the comments were going to be deleted? I found out when it said that the comments were deleted by an administrator. With the comments she was making it is hardly a surprise if somebody did report her.. Come on think, man think. It may be an alien concept, but try anyway.


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Because yesterday you wrote:

I see your best mate has been deleted. I understand why it's a sad day for you.


Then Turk replied, and then his message, along with a previous message of his, were gone. Like thieves in the night, if you will. It's all documented in Soccertranny's latest thread.

You'll understand it's not personal, but you'll surely recognise our suspicions.

Also, please sign the petition please Benman. I enjoy discussing Pam and the rest of The Office gang.

Kindest regards

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What accent did she have?

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Good article, the best part is when they address why Stanley has two toasters.

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I used to think Pam was ok, but the more I re-watch episodes the more I dislike her.

I thought it was really tacky how she wanted everyone to give her cash for a wedding present. I also hated how she demanded to be put in Sales, but failed miserably, so she created her own position of Office Administrator (or whatever she called it). If she couldn't cut it in Sales, and the receptionist's position was already filled by Erin, she should have been fired or at least written up. I also thought she was a quitter by leaving Pratt so soon. And once she became pregnant she became smug and completely unbearable.

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Yeah right. All too predictable.



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I also hated how she demanded to be put in Sales


While the rest can be debated how did she demand a sales role?

and the receptionist's position was already filled by Erin


Erin shouldn't have even been hired.

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While the rest can be debated how did she demand a sales role?


Pam's demands for a sales role were central to Michael Scott Paper Inc's buyout discussions with Dunder Mifflin


Erin shouldn't have even been hired


Why not exactly? Erin proved to be a competent receptionist, and always did her best to get on with everyone else, unlike Pam. Charles deserves credit for Erin's appointment too.



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Pam's demands for a sales role were central to Michael Scott Paper Inc's buyout discussions with Dunder Mifflin


I'll repeat how did she demand a sales role? What were her exact words?

Erin proved to be a competent receptionist


Competency and "space orphan" probably shouldn't be used in the same sentence. She had worked at a Taco Bell Express but couldn't handle it when it became a regular Taco Bell. Did Charles even read her resume or was he simply hoping to make an episode of Blacked? Hell she reuses hot dog water...

always did her best to get on with everyone else


She was a bit of a biatch towards Holly

Charles deserves credit


No. Nope. You're done.

The office will always like Pam better than Erin

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I'll repeat how did she demand a sales role? What were her exact words?


Have you even watched the episode "Broke"? As I already said, Pam's demands for a sales role were central to Michael Scott Paper Inc's buyout discussions with Dunder Mifflin. It's clear as day.

She had worked at a Taco Bell Express but couldn't handle it when it became a regular Taco Bell


And what does that have to do with her current performance as a receptionist? You've no evidence that she was anything less than competent in her role.

She was a bit of a biatch towards Holly


True. But out of loyalty to Michael, so again, it was with the best of intentions. Something Pam does not understand.

No. Nope. You're done.


I guess you tried.



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Have you even watched the episode "Broke"? As I already said, Pam's demands for a sales role were central to Michael Scott Paper Inc's buyout discussions with Dunder Mifflin. It's clear as day.


What did Pam actually say, what are the demands? As the self appointed expert backup your claims because despite multiple rants you've provided nothing. Don't do another "oh you have to watch the show" actually prove your point if you can.

And it was Michael Scott Paper Company not Michael Scott Paper Inc

You've no evidence that she was anything less than competent in her role.


Season 6 episode 15, seventeen second mark
Season 7 episode 6, seven minute thirty second mark
Season 8 episode 2, six minute twenty second mark

True. But out of loyalty to Michael


BA-BOW

I guess you tried.


Perhaps in a future post you actually will

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What did Pam actually say, what are the demands? As the self appointed expert backup your claims because despite multiple rants you've provided nothing


See, you've changed the goal-posts here because you know you've lost the argument. You know as well as I do that Pam getting a sales role was demanded during the negotiation. But because you originally disputed this and have subsequently been show to be wrong, you insist that she had to have said "I DEMAND A SALES ROLE" verbatim for it to be correct. Since when did demands even have to be verbalised?


Season 7 episode 6, seven minute thirty second mark is a perfect example.


Asked to put Darryl on speaker, puts Darryl on speaker. Is this episode tough for you because you found out Danny ploughed The Office Mattress?


BA-BOW



I guess I have to concede that point, because I did say "always". Not that you're one to maintain integrity in your arguments.


Perhaps in a future post you actually will


Um, burn?




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See, you've changed the goal-posts here


100% completely incorrect

that she had to have said "I DEMAND A SALES ROLE" verbatim for it to be correct.


No I am asking what her demands were when negotiations between DM and MSPC were underway. And again you can't provide them. So I'll ask again what demands did Pam make?

Asked to put Darryl on speaker, puts Darryl on speaker.


And what happens at conclusion of the call?

Um, burn?


No not really, you still haven't put the effort in to the original query. I'm not expecting that to change.

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No I am asking what her demands were when negotiations between DM and MSPC were underway. And again you can't provide them.


Pam becoming a salesperson was part of MSPC's demands in the buyout. Pam makes this clear during them. I'm not sure which part of that you are failing to understand. Have you had a recent brain injury? I have stated this several times, you are just ignoring it.


And what happens at conclusion of the call?


Your girlfriend The Office Mattress is (like usual) the snarky b that she is, while giving Erin (who actually has a real job) a hard time while not doing her pretend job she fraudulently obtained?


Get on the scale son! Get off the scale.

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Pam becoming a salesperson was part of MSPC's demands in the buyout. Pam makes this clear during them. I'm not sure which part of that you are failing to understand. Have you had a recent brain injury? I have stated this several times, you are just ignoring it.


You can keep stating your (false) claim however without actually being able to provide some proof it's going to remain your little fantasy. Shouldn't be overly difficult to quote a line or lines of dialogue. Dropping the insult in shows you're unlikely to be providing said detail.

while giving Erin (who actually has a real job) a hard time


Informing her to press one button to end a phone call and her being completely incapable of doing so. Erin's really displaying that competency you claimed she had.

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Pam demanded to be put in Sales when she left Dunder Mifflin to work for the Michael Scott Paper Company, remember?

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She did nothing of the sort.



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You are incorrect, and I suggest you re-watch "Two Weeks" in season 5. Michael leaves DM and Pam runs out into the parking lot and says that she will join him. He mentions that he can use a receptionist and she says something like, "No, I want to be in Sales."

I'm done arguing this. I am right and you are wrong.

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and she says something like, "No, I want to be in Sales."


Which would be a request. And Mike could have turned her down.

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As another poster said, it was a request she didn't demand anything. If you'd actually seen the incident you would know that was the case. As you say you are right and others are wrong and you are done arguing I will assume you haven't seen it. Its difficult arguing from a position of ignorance.



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Pam becoming a salesperson was a key demand of MSPC with the buyout negotiations with David and Charles. Go back and watch the episode.


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Part of the negotiations maybe, a bit different from Pam herself demanding to be made a salesperson. Try and think first before you post. For once. Go back.



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Just like Frosted One, you've changed the goal posts here. Michael stated what Pam's demands were, and Pam agreed. You're both wrong. Pam demanded a Sales Role as part of the buyout, and she got one.


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Michael stated what Pam's demands were


Incorrect. Michael gave his demands he did not discuss them with his staff prior to the meeting.

Pam demanded a Sales Role as part of the buyout


Three days ago when all you could say was "watch the episode" you couldn't back up the claim and you still can't.

Buyout negotiation between DM and MSPC

Original text from http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/episode_scripts.php?tv-show=the-office-us&season=5

DW=David Wallace, MS=Michael Scott, CM=Charles Minor, RH=Ryan Howard, PB=Pam Beesley

In order to expedite these negotiations, we are prepared to make you a very generous offer. DW
And we are prepared to reject that offer. MS
- You haven't even heard. DW
- Never accept their first offer. MS
What is your second offer? MS
$12,000. DW
Are you kidding me? That is insultingly low. I don't even want to hear what your first offer was. MS
What do you hear? Here's the situation. Your company is four weeks old. I know this business. I know what suppliers are charging. I know you can't be making very much money. I don't know how your prices are so low but I know it can't keep up that way. I'm sure you're scared. Probably in debt. This is the best offer you're gonna get. DW
I'll see your situation and I'll raise you a situation. Your company is losing clients left and right. You have a stockholder meeting coming up and you're going to have to explain why your most profitable branch is bleeding. So they may be looking for a little change in the CFO. I don't need to wait out Dunder Mifflin. I think I just have to wait out you. MS
I don't know that I can get this. I do have to go to the board for approval. How's about $60,000? DW
- We'll have to talk... MS
- What? CM
- We're gonna have to talk about this. RH
- Just amongst ourselves. MS
Please take the room. Be right outside. Take your time. DW

So you've thought it over, yes, and you accept our offer. We can finally put this whole thing behind us? DW
No MS
Can you give us another minute please? PB
How could you do this to me? You just cost me $60,000. RH
- Why would you get the whole thing? PB
- It's a lot of money. But we need money coming in every week. We need jobs. Wouldn't you rather have a fishing pole than a fish? MS
I would rather have $60,000, honestly. RH
No, Michael's right. Jobs are safer. PB
Agreed? MS
Agreed. But that's all, OK? PB
- Discuss these things RH
- Shut up. Hello! MS

I want my old job back. I want my old parking space back. I want a Sebring. MS
- They don't make them anymore. CM
And I want Charles gone. MS
I am not firing Charles. He's very valuable. DW
- That's very kind of you to say. CM
- I need him gone. MS
NO! DW
OK then I want Pam back. MS
- You already have a new receptionist. DW
Sales. MS
Thank you PB
- Pam's not a salesperson. DW
- Yes, she is. At the Michael Scott Paper Company in its heyday. MS
- That's right. PB
- OK. Please continue. DW
- And Ryan. MS
Ryan cost Dunder Mifflin hundreds of thousands of dollars. DW
You know, David? I don't care if Ryan murdered his entire family. He is like a son to me. MS
- Do you realize what you're asking for? You're talking about salary plus health benefits. DW
And dental this time. MS
Insurance, taxes, social security for three people. This is a lot more than 60 grand. It's a multi-million dollar buyout. DW
These are our demands. MS
Your company cannot be worth that much. DW
Our company is worth nothing. That's the difference between you and I. Business isn't about money to me, David.If tomorrow my company goes under, I will just start another paper company. And then another and another and another. I have no shortage of company names. MS
Michael. DW
That's one of 'em! These are our demands. This is what we want. Our balls are in your court. MS
OK. Deal. DW
Can we have the room, please? Can you believe it? Great job! Right here! That's what I'm talking about! MS

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OK then I want Pam back. MS
- You already have a new receptionist. DW
Sales. MS
Thank you PB
- Pam's not a salesperson. DW
- Yes, she is. At the Michael Scott Paper Company in its heyday. MS
- That's right. PB

These are our demands. MS


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I've never known anyone in business to classify "Thank you" & "That's right" as demands.

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As has been mentioned, it was a request not a demand. Big difference. We change the goal posts??? You and Nerk do it all the time. You're such a cabbage.



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Provide examples please.


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All you have to do is read what you posted together. Turk used to lie continually and you were happy to join in.



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Okay, apart from the hilarious "deleted scenes" comments we made a handful of times which were clearly jokes, provide some examples please.


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As I said, just re-read what you and Berk did. I know Turk of old, they certainly weren't jokes to him. He was doing the same thing when the show was running. In reality he probably loves Pam/Jenna, loves them in his own special way. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, elbow, elbow.



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Really can’t stand airhead Erin.
I don’t mind Pam at all . But she was definitely better when a receptionist.

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Erin doesn't really leave an impression either way. She's a bit of a psycho sometimes, but nice to see someone so clueless that they can be constantly happy otherwise.

Pam is just a conceited, egotistical, self-important little !@%%&#* that most of the time, I can't stand. Even when she's not vindictive or drunk.

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